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Sporterizing A Lee Enfield

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Grubby, Jan 5, 2012.

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  1. Grubby

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    Hello,
    Has anyone ever thought/fooled around with/done anything with sporterizing an enfield? Also has anyone ever improved the 303 british in either a 30/40 Ackley Improved or a 303 Epps? I'd probably go with the P14 since it doesn't have the magazine sticking out.
     
  2. 1KPerDay

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    Lots of people have thought about it, and done it. However, I'd personally try to find one that has already been done, rather than 'ruin' another one. :)
     
  3. BrocLuno

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    You mean something like this?

    It's one of my favorite bolt rifles :)
     

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  4. Grubby

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    Exactly like that. Did you change the caliber or is still chambered in the standard 303 British? Where did you get that stock at also?
     
  5. Liberty1776

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    I know you didn't ask, but there's nothing at all (in a practical sense) to be gained by changing the chambering. The .303 British has taken everything on earth - many, many times over...
     
  6. 303tom

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    Or like this......and yes it is still .303 !
     
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  7. Carolina Kalash

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    i would never dare butcher up a beautiful rifle like the enfield... find one that somebody already disgraced by "sporterizing" it...
     
  8. Robtattoo

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    First post.....

    Here's mine, again, still in the old favorite .303

    I bedded the action into the stock, shortened & recrowned the barrel to 19¾" & I had a local smith sort out the headspacing for Prvi Partisan brass.

    [​IMG]

    It's by far my favorite 'modern' rifle (most everything else I shoot is loaded from the other end or BPCR)
     
  9. 303tom

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    It looked like this when I found it.........and it had the bayonet lugs hacked off.
     
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  10. Carl N. Brown

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    I have a sporterized .303 No.1 Mark 3* with walnut monte carlo stock and 21" barrel that looks like the version made by UK firm Parker Hale Ltd.

    When I was a kid (1950s), the local army/navy surplus store had a barrel of Lee Enfields with bobbed military stocks. They still show up on the used gun market. They were actually quite popular among farmers as a utility gun and deer rifle.
     
  11. 303tom

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    This is the other sporterized Enfield I have..........It`s a 2A in 7.62 NATO.
     
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  12. Red October

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    I bought this one as you see it (I wouldn't butcher any C&R rifle like this) for $119. Couldn't pass that up. Considered restoring it, but decided to keep it as a "beater". It still shoots good.
     

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  13. BrocLuno

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    Mine came that way. The previous owner spent untold $$ making it into what you see, then obviously got tired of it or something? I'm always on the look-out for well done mil-surp conversions. Still 303, and that's fine as it's a very versatile cartridge :)

    Try these guys as a source of pre-fit stock blanks: http://www.gun-parts.com/militarystocks/ :)
     
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  14. Thefabulousfink

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    I have two enfields that I love shooting, cant beat that action. 1 is mil-spec that I keep for historical reason (cost @ $400) the other is a bubba sporterized one that I am saving for a special project when I have the funds (cost < $100 plus shipping and ffl).

    Thousands of these rifles were imported for dirt cheap and converted (usually poorly) into deer rifles. If you look around pawn shops, used gun stores, and even sites like gunbroker. You should be able to find one with and ugly chopped stock & maybe a few inches off the barrel, but otherwise in good shape. The price shouldn't be over $150 because you can get an intact enfield for $450.

    Then go wild! rechamber, rebarrel, restock. I love enfields and I love to see someone turn them into something unique.
     
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    If you like classics, do a google image search for "Lee speed rifle" or "Lee Speed Sporter". They were very early factory made sporters on the No1 type Lee Enfiled or Lee Metford actions. The Lee Speeds are stunning sporters. I'd trade a boatload of military trim Lee Enfields for a true Lee Speed or high quality reproduction. I still think about building one.
     
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    See the attached photo.

    The upper one is a SMLE Mark III Lithgow 1940. My dad got it when I was a little kid.
    The lower one is a SMLE Mark III*. My dad pulled it out of the Hiroshima Bay in August of 1945. All of the exposed metal is salt water etched. The bore and chamber are not etched and bright.

    I shoot both from time to time and find them to be a lot of fun.

    I would have never 'sporterized' the Lithgow. Hay, I was maybe two, what could I do?

    Enjoy,

    OSOK
     

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    Dorkfish88 expressed it in a nutshell.

    And for guns which already have metal components cut off, they've already lost lots of dollar value, and by undergoing more work, have nothing else to lose.
    Most Enfields -if you find any- at our gun shows have suffered permanent metal alterations, and my fellow milsurp collectors also never give them a second glance.

    Thefabulousfink: You can often buy a good example of the #4/Mk. 1 in the original configuration down south for about $250-300 in a FTF at a gun show etc. In Ft. Worth, you might see three at a single show, along with a really good #4/Mk 2. You seldom see one in the original config. at shows near Memphis.

    Most originals have lost a good bit of bluing and have dinged wood, but they are still military rifles, and as most of you know, quite a number have good, even very good bores and can be accurate.

    With many of the 2-groove (bore) Longbranch and Savage types, avoiding all BT bullets helps very much.
    Most of the #4s built in England have 4 or 5-groove bores: "ROF (F)" and the Maltby, BSA types.
     
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  18. MrBorland

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    I'll play.

    Mine was my father's. As a young'un, he didn't have much money for a deer rifle, and milsurp rifles were dirt cheap. This one was pulled from a barrel of cosmoline for $10. He sporterized it himself and did a great job.

    The quality of the sporterizing is top-notch. It was used for deer hunting, and currently sees some range time. It's a family heirloom, and the firearm that got me shooting. It was buried in a barrel of cosmoline, not being enjoyed by anyone. I'd say it's in a far more graceful state now.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Grubby

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    Is there a place to pick up some decent barrels, or are most of the barrels that come with the old rifles still in decent condition.
     
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    http://www.gunpartscorp.com/
     
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    An Enfield in military configuration are worth 300-400 bucks around here. A bubba custom is worth around 100-150 bucks. Do the math. If you are determined to do a bubba custom, a real custom will cost you a fortune, pick up a rifle that has already been hacked up. chris3
     
  22. jimmyraythomason

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    Depends on the quality of the work and by whom it was done.
    Math has very little to do with building a custom( actually "sporterizing") rifle. The pay off of sporterizing isn't in the moneys saved or spent. It is in the satisfaction received from building it (usually) yourself. Having said that,I DO agree that COMPLETE milspec specimens should be left alone but previously sporterized or parts guns are fair game. Keep the original that way not because it is "worth more" monetarily but because of what it represents.
     
  23. 303tom

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    You sure as heck ain`t getting this for no 150 bucks, 500 and I might think about it.........
     
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    $150?

    Erm.....not for mine you won't! :D
     
  25. BrocLuno

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    Not mine either. You need to be talking north of $500, but I guess it's not one that will catch your eye?
     
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