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"Spray fired from the hip"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Conqueror, Aug 11, 2008.

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  1. Conqueror

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    Whipped this up today, thought it might be of value to someone. I have a couple such images and I use them to explain things to antis.
     
  2. Huddog

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    Nicely done. I would like to add that firing from the hip is less accurate. depending of course on how much one practises it and the range involved. But generally, less accurate.
     
  3. Psywarrior13

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    First, nicely done. But sadly the Brady Bunch relies too heavily on Hollywood for their information, not on facts or logic. If they took even two minutes to try holding a gun they would realize that what you are saying is correct.
     
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    Everybody knows that THIS is the way to do it!

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  5. Old Grump

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    Since the anti's get their deadly accurate information about guns from TV, movies and each other I doubt if the concept of firing accuracy enters into their reasoning or all guns with some kind of sight attached would be instantly forbidden to the unwashed masses. I tried to learn the point shooting thing and I tried for a month or so to do the shooting from the hip thing with the wrist pressed against the hip and the body pointed just so and the feet pointed just so and the head.....well I gave it up as a lost cause because after about 10' it didn't work, I'll take the 1/2 second to find my sight. Never tried it with a rifle but I think I would only try it with a straight stock, not one with a pistol grip.
     
  6. Conqueror

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    I noted that at the bottom.
     
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    if you really wanted to put something else in there you could put something about the BAR actually being designed for "walking fire" with a hip issued holster but it has no pistol grip.
     
  8. ChrisVV

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    good point
     
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    Its like arguing with drunks. The proposals for AWB is made by idiots for idiots, arguments based on fantasy and hyperbole.
     
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  11. ColinthePilot

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    I recall seeing a show on the Discovery Channel or History or Military or some channel a while back where the US Army actually had an attachment for the pistol belt that would fit the stock of (I think) a Thompson to allow it to be fired from the hip. It looked like a canteen cup turned so it opened forward. I don't remember any specifics but I can distinctly remember seeing a soldier using this device walking and spraying. I doubt it was ever used in combat, but it did exist.
     
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    I always thought the traditional stocks gave better wrist angle if someone is stupid enough to try firing from the hip in combat or a serious situation. But like was said, they get their "facts" from Hollywood where Mr. Good Guy mows down waves of bad guys firing from the hip with perfect accuracy, no recoil, and endless magazines.
     
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    The M1918 BAR was designed to be fired from the hip under the doctrine of Walking Fire. Note, it did not have a pistol grip.
     
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    I really want to take someone who makes one of those fire from the hip comments to a place where they can actually try to fire from the hip versus the shoulder so they can see how ridiculously inaccurate it is.


    Heck if someone is ever, god forbid, shooting at me I hope they are "spraying from the hip" rather then taking careful aim and slow firing.
     
  16. SapperMapper

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    Yeah, but it existed almost 70 years ago. What bearing should that have on current legislation?

    Shooting from the hip is a bad idea. That's why the phrase has come into common use, meaning "to make a random attempt without really trying".

    Front sight, center of mass, squeeze the trigger.
     
  17. Tommygunn

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    I have a Bushmaster M4orgery and it doesn't cause me any problem with my wrist to hold it waist high. Then again I also have an M-1 Carbine and it also works well held to the waist.
    I think probably in WW2 a fair amount of shooting was done that way with carbines and Garands. I've seen newsreel clips of soldiers armed with Thompsons firing them that way, and in fact the ergonomics of the Thompson lends itself better to waist high shooting than shoulder fired, IMHO.
    I know the Brady Brats made a big thing of guns with pistol grips back in 1994 because of this. It was (and is) a pretty stupid thing to be concerned over .... sort of like worrying about the deadliness of barrel shrouds ... you know, "that part that goes up.":confused::scrutiny:;)
     
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    Well done. I would however take new pictures with a 30rd mag in the gun otherwise the antis might think they're getting through to you. :neener:
     
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    No, dude, you've got it all wrong. All the best Hollywood and Brady experts agree that you have to hold the gun sideways in order to spray from the hip without wrist pain! :D
     
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    if someone says "spray fire from the hip" just pull up some pictures of the rifles used for 10-meter air rifle competition. Many of them have pistol grips.
     
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    What allows rifles to be fired from the hip is our wrists. I'm surprised that they haven't banned them.

    Actually, the standard grip style on hunting rifles and the like make it easier to fire from the hip. You should include a photo showing the difference in the angle and how semi-auto hunting rifles are actually better designed to "spray fire from the hip" than a pistol-gripped rifle.
     
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    I think the whole hip-fire thing comes from the way that two-point slings allow you to carry the rifle/shotgun on your person, at the ready, without bearing its full weight in your arms, if you sling it over your shoulder, and hold it waist high.
    Of course, this tactic allows for you to snap off a few shots to get enemy forces' heads down, then take cover, and fire properly.
     
  24. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Yeah, that's why we see all those two point slings in those classic Tommy Gun poses:
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  25. Aren't we all

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    the french invented firing from the hip with the Chauchat light machine gun (during WW1) it was called walking fire to supress the german trenches, it was an okay idea if the gunners weren't taken down by german Maxim 08 machine gun fire or their weapons didn't blow up, as they often did.

    The BAR and lewis gun fufilled the role much better
    and the GPMP is the ultimate hip fired weapon with a sling.


    MArsh
     
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