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Springfield 1911A1 = Jammamatic.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by bestseller92, Aug 20, 2009.

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  1. bestseller92

    bestseller92 Member

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    I bought this thing new in 2001, sold it to my brother in law later, then got it back last year.

    It's in perfect mechanical condition; probably less than 1000 rounds through it, but even clean and lubed, magged-up with Wilson Combat 47Ds and shooting hardball (the only kind of ammo it's ever seen), it's a jammer.

    I took it out yesterday for a shooting session, but it jammed twice in the first four rounds and I got disgusted and had the session with my G22 instead (the Glock, of course, was flawless as always).

    My Springfield's days are now numbered. I'm getting rid of it.

    I may get another 1911 at some point, but this Springer is a POS.
     
  2. EHL

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    Have you called up Springfield about this? Your gun has a lifetime warranty. You might consider taking them up on this offer to fix your gun. It could just be one small little defective part that is causing all of this. I think you'd feel better getting it fixed instead of just complaining about it here on the forum. Good luck though.:)
     
  3. bestseller92

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    I'm not gonna just complain -- I'm gonna get rid of it :).

    I suppose my Glocks have spoiled me, but when I spend $505 on a gun, I expect it to work, at least with hardball. Don't really want the hassle and shipping expense of sending it back, either.

    Having said that, I may contact Springfield and ask them about it. I do like the 1911 format, but I won't have an unreliable handgun.
     
  4. V45C

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    a springfield that old shouldn't have QC problems... send it back , i'm betting its some small item out of spec...
    did you clean the channel in the slide for the extractor ?
    that can cause all kinds of havoc and is often overlooked...
    modern SA's are crap , the old stuff was usually idiotproof...
     
  5. mljdeckard

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    I dropped my Glock for a 1911. There is no reason this gun shouldn't run well.

    Look at it this way. You already have another gun to carry and shoot while you wait. It's not like you are going to be empty-handed while you wait for it. Make them do their job.
     
  6. glocks rock

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    It's free to send it back to SA and if you are going to sell it, you owe it to the next buyer to have it fixed for free. Just call SA and get a label.
     
  7. KenW.

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    Heavens; send it to me, I'll get it fixed.Wanna swap it for a XD45 Compact? I'm "out west" too.
     
  8. z3ro

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    I borrowed my girlfriend at the time dads SA 1911, and it jammed a lot to. I spent so much time cleaning that gun, and it never worked right. Luckly it wasn't mine. :)
     
  9. Das Jaeger

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    Simple fix

    and free shipping to and from , no brainer here . :banghead:
    Springfield is one of the finest weopons out there , but like anything , once in a while something mechanical wrong happens in production , or its dirty . :what:
    Get it fixed and sell it if you don't like Springfields , but your handgun is in no way reflective on Springfield as a whole or even a minute part of thier quality or Legacy .

    Jaeger
     
  10. Eightball

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    I've sent guns back to manufacturers for smaller problems.

    Call up SA.....at least give them a chance to make it right before writing them off.
     
  11. weisse52

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    I will agree send it back

    Of the 1911's I have purchased new in the last 10 years a SA GI is the only one I had a problem with

    SA paid for shipping both ways and fixed the problem first time

    They even did some upgrades at no cost while they had it.
     
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  12. The Lone Haranguer

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    I agree it should not happen in the first place, but it may be some minor issue like extractor tension.
     
  13. skipsan

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    Sounds like your mind is made up but none of my four Springfields will run reliably with Wilson magazines. Some, or maybe most, folks have no troubles, but there are a significant number of SA owners that have reliability issues with the Wilson mags. SA Customer Service has even acknowledged "issues" with the Wilson products. For my SA 1911s, the cheaper the magazine, the better it works.
     
  14. CWL

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    Did it have similar problems during the first 7-8 years of it's life?

    Just what exactly is the type of "jam" you are experiencing?

    Granted that everybody makes a few 'lemons', but I think there's more to this story.
     
  15. ugaarguy

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    Then it's not in perfect mechanical condition.
    Ditch the Wilson 47Ds. I've also had 1911s that didn't like them. USGI 7 rounders, Colt 7 rounders, McCormick Shooting Star 7 rounders, SA factory 7 rounders, and Kimber (not Tac Pro) 7 rounders - in that order are the best 1911 mags I've used with the latter in a 3 way tie for third. All have been flawless for me, but the guns are smoother with Colt or USGI mags - especially USGI mags.
    Again, when did the problems develop? What type of jam? I agree with the other folks who've already said it - call SA. Free tuning or repair including shipping both ways is a sweet deal. Don't give up on it yet.
     
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    If you haven't tried different mags, I'd definitely give that a shot before blaming the gun.
     
  17. DasFriek

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    Thats what happens when you buy a Taurus,its jun.....Oh you said Springfield,yeh send that in.
     
  18. mapwd

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    Springfield has THE BEST customer service in the industry and it has a lifetime warranty!! Send it in! I had a Glock 30SF that I got rid of to get back to the 1911. The 30SF has a ton of issues as well, any gun company puts out a lemon once in awhile. Give them the chance to make it right by you and I think you will feel differently about the gun.
     
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    I bought my SA used and it has only had one FTFeed to in it's whole life. I was riding the slide with LRN reloads.

    Hollowpoints, FMJ, LRN (when I keep my fat hands off the slide), LSWC, no problems. SA is capable of making a dead reliable weapon. Give them a chance to make it right before you write them off based on a single experience.
     
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    Try different mags

    I only run factory SA standard mags or CMIs and have had no failures in my loaded model
     
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    I owned a springfield champion compact and it was without a doubt the most reliable and accurate 1911 platform I have ever had.Imho springfield is tops of the mid class 1911s, far above the Kimber. My brother in law works for a hospital secuirty force and they get new issue weapons every 3 years last time around they got 14 kimbers and 12 WOULD not function.Seems Kimber was'nt really concerned, so now they carry Springfield xd 45. no malfunctions so far. He could not get CO to get a 1911 platform because of the Kimber,cant really fault him though.I would rather have a Springfield than any other 1911.But if druthers are are here give me my Glock any day, have 3 owned over 7 never had 1 to blow up yet,and have bought gun show reloads for 10 years .Have shot 40s in my Glock 20 for years before I knew better and the 20 is still my go to gun.
     
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    I sent a new SA Loaded back to SA for warranty work and an action job.
    Their customer service is EXCELLENT. They tried as hard as possible to accommodate me. They communicated. They remediated. Give them a chance to make good. They want your business. They want you to enjoy their products and recommend them to a friend.
    Call them and explain what's going on.
     
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    Have you tried a genuine Colt 1911 mag? I had a gun once that wouldn't run with any of the high-dollar aftermarket mags, but it was 100% with Colt mags. Go figure.
     
  24. ants

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    Well, at least you shot 4 rounds before you drew your conclusion.
    Some people jump to a conclusion after just 2 rounds, which isn't fair at all. (Just funnin' with ya.)

    Truthfully, if you don't like it, I agree with you that you should get rid of it. Period.
    No law says you have to keep it or get it fixed.
     
  25. mec

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    could be weak magazine springs or, given the round count, it could be that the extractor gave it up. I had a couple of them that relaxed after 900 rounds. Knowledgeable people looked at the springfield extractor on the second one and pronounced it way out of spec and inferior.
    One place I ordered an extractor listed separate ones for Springfield Armory. Apparently, they have their own notions about 1911 geometry.
     
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