Squib rounds

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  1. Y-T71

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    My squib occurred after 30+years as a handloader; this happened only about 2-3 years ago.

    I had an unexpected chance to get to the range.

    I had wanted to do a ladder work-up with a .223/5.56 load but never got around to it.

    The range trip caught me unprepared so I quickly, too quickly as it turned out later, threw my test loads together.

    I used my single stage and loading block to load 50 rounds (I was working up the load for 2 different rifles) but, somehow, didn't powder one case.

    Got a "click", stopped, waited a moment for a hangfire, and ejected the round.

    Luckily the primer didn't push the bullet out of the case so I finished my work-up.

    When I got home I knocked the offending round apart and that's when I discovered I had never charged that case.

    No harm no foul.

    BTW, up until that day I had always followed the 4 rules you posted.

    1-No distractions, I don't have a radio, TV or even my phone.
    2-No alcohol/drugs
    3-One bottle of powder at a time.

    The only rule I didn't follow was #4: don't rush.

    Thankfully I learned my lesson no worse for the wear.
     
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  2. Jim Watson

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    Me, too.
    Weak point of my S1050. If it skips a primer, it is not obvious and will deliver rounds with powder and bullet but no primer. It also will sometimes miss the shellplate with a case coming out of the feeder. I don't know how people can motorize them and let them run while doing something else.
     
  3. AJC1

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    You listed 4 rules and don't rush was not one of them. ;)
     
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  4. FROGO207

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    As I was saying on another thread I reload on a single stage using the batch method. That is the process that works the best and safest for me. I also modified my process to include steps that I did not use when I started out 35+ years ago.
    The best thought is "You don't know what you don't know until you learn otherwise."
     
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  5. Y-T71

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    "...The only rule I didn't follow was, don't rush..."

    I guess that was implied as the 4th rule :D
     
  6. fxvr5

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    That's exactly what you said. You list your screw-up and then out of nowhere you say people should not load light target loads.
     
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  7. GeoDudeFlorida

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    No, it’s not. Well, now I have to quote it. I was hoping the hint was enough.
    Ophelia to Laertes, Act 1,Scene 3.

    “I shall the effect of this good lesson keep
    As watchman to my heart. But, good my brother,
    Do not — as some ungracious pastors do —
    Show me the steep and thorny way to heaven,
    Whilst, like a puffed and reckless libertine,
    Himself the primrose path of dalliance treads,
    And recks not his own rede.”
     
  8. Walkalong

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    I hand prime everything, but I managed to load an unprimed .45 ACP case once. Hmm, why do I have a few flakes of W-231 in the hopper. Sigh. :)
     
  9. GeoDudeFlorida

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    My father in law did that priming what he thought were SPP .45ACP brass. A LPP case snuck in and he didn’t notice until we were boxing up. He laughed, I laughed, and then he did something that made me cringe: he hand primed the loaded round. He said 700x was too big to leak out through the flash hole. I stayed quiet. Whether or not a few grains of powder escaped was not my number one concern.
     
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  10. The Bushmaster

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    I prime using a press mounted Lee priming die on my "O" press.
     
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  11. Remington1911

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    I like to think I am pretty anal about reloading, I have come across it here lately, and think it was the way the gun was stored, soaked in ballastol. In pulling the bullets down the powder way gooey like tar. When I popped the primers after pulling the bullets and powder I came away with a couple that sounded good and one that was a pooft. I think the oil got past the crimp or primer in the YEARS the gun was stored.

    I had a friend have one with a factory load, he does not reload....but that is it. Never a double charge or under charge.

    I don't shoot the volume that some of you guys do, 50 rounds is a big run for me. For me (remember the anal part) for the reloading part not case prep, it is start the powder going, RCBS chargemaster, prime the case, weigh case, charge case, weigh case again, then add bullet. All bullets are weighed in advance as well.

    Just the way I do it. Now I know this will not work with some hand gun games people play, and I did not do this with my hand gun loads, I used the mark one eyeball and said yea looks like the same powder level in all the other cases good enough....but rifles, nope, the first way.

    Only one powder on the bench at a time, only one die, one bullet one primer type.

    Slow but never an issue.
     
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  12. PapaG

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    Kind of funny how language changes. Squib loads used to be light loads for practice. Lyman even had some bullets designated as " squib" load bullets.
     
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  13. jmorris

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    I have known some people that have tried to reload to save money or gain a competitive advantage that just were not cut out for it. They just couldn’t get it, despite being good shooters and educated. Its a job that requires some attention to detail.

    With the right equipment a 4 year old can reload safe ammunition. Even if they had no chance of setting up the equipment.

    That really hasn’t hit mainstream in reloading though, few examples exist today.
     
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  14. Jim Watson

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    I know, but that is a battle lost. There was a recent article about it, the author said he preferred "BIB" for Bullet In Barrel, but was giving up to Internet English and calling it a "squib" like everybody else. I say "stuck bullet."
     
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  15. mdi

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    I don't reload on a progressive not because of fear of the auto process fouling up, but I like reloading. I believe the myth about squibs coming more often from a progressive is because it is easier for the operator to screw up. Most other presses/methods the reloader handles the case more times and has a better chance of finding an error (the 45 ACP small primer hatred is from reloaders just dumping brass into the hopper and cranking the handle).

    FWIW my one and only squib was me using a Lee Loader in 1970. None since 'cause I learned from that one...
     
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