Stag Arms STAG-15?

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  1. DynoDan1

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    Looking to buy a Stag Arms STAG-15. Model # 810052407203.
    Any thoughts, good, bad, eh?
     
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    your model number isn't working on stag's site. you need to post a link.
     
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    Bought a Stag M4 around 2008 when they were the trendy new brand. It has been fine but nothing special. Under the new ownership their reputation has sunk. You didn't mention price but you could buy the same quality from PSA for $500-600.
     
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    Thanks.
    I'm not looking for the best there is, just something that works well. The one I'm looking at is $899.00
    A buddy has put together his own AR 15 and AR 10's and they are fun to shoot, when they work right, which is not often.
    I don't want that, of course, so I'm hoping this will function as intended.
    I'm just a target shooter that shoots A LOT with my .308 bolt action rifles (2) and with my hand guns (.357/9MM).
     
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  7. Skylerbone

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    At $900 that’s a stone cold rip off for a basic M4. At MSRP it’s highway robbery. Things to consider before you spend money on any AR:

    1. purpose. Consider the configuration and if it will suit your needs. Does it readily accept accessories or a scope?

    2. gas system length. While a 5.56 AR has mild recoil, the longer the gas system, the smoother the impulse will be. Consider a mid length or rifle length.

    3. twist rate. Does it suit the weight bullet you intend to use?

    4. value added features. Are sights included (if you want them)? Is it Melonite coated or chrome lined? Comfortable stock or basic milspec?

    No offense but if your friend has assembled multiple ARs and they have continuous function problems then he’s either bad at following instructions or a poor judge of parts. Both can be remedied with a bit of study.
     
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    Big +1 to both of these points.

    Basic, reasonable quality carbines can be easily sourced from about $450-650 currently.

    Sign up at Palmetto State Armory for their emails. You'll be able to find what you want on sale pretty quickly.

    Complete carbines are going for about $500 +/- some options. You can pretty regularly snag an upper and lower separately and snap them together for under $450.

    Building the whole rifle from spare, individual parts isn't terribly complicated. I'm betting one of a few things happened at least to your friend:

    1. Tried to make do without the correct tools
    2. Didn't follow instructions (or at least wasn't picky about getting things just right)
    3. Really cheaped out on parts.
     
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    I also bought my first (and only) complete Stag in 2008; because I'm a lefty and they were about it at the time for lefty uppers. The quality was great, then and now. Since then, I've stayed true to the brand because they support lefties, using 7 or 8 stag lowers over the years and building with Stag complete uppers or uppers of other brands. I don't build many uppers but I did one with a Stag 10 lefty and Stag barrel to make a 308 Lefty AR. Stag is great quality...I don't understand the comparison's to PSA, although the latter is also good. But I've never seen a Stag with a fit or finish problem no matter what upper I put on it. They're tight and the finish is perfect, and I appreciate that they label the safety on both sides of their lowers (Anderson doesn't) because I often put in a lefty safety switch.

    The better move for the OP is to buy a Stag blemished lower ($79) and put a parts kit and trigger of your choosing into it and Magpul furniture, and then, put a complete upper of your choosing on it or buy a Stag complete upper if you're a leftie. I just finished a lower with a Rise parts kit ($30), Rave 140 trigger ($99), milstock buffer tube, Magpul CTR stock and K2 handgrip. I've got about $360 into a complete lower with great parts and trigger. Add in a $250 Bearcreek complete upper and you've got a better rifle than above for under $600...and it's still a Stag :neener:
     
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    Not meaning to imply Stag isn’t a fine quality rifle but you can own a Colt with money to spare. Furthermore the OP may not be interested in a defensive carbine when describing himself as mainly a target shooter.
     
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    I had a friend buy a Stag AR around 2008'ish as well. They had a pretty popular niche then, as a rifle a little cheaper than the Pony that would still run better than an Olympic. But the bottom end of ARs REALLY caught up in quality around 2014'ish, and they basically squeezed the mid level players like Colt, Stag, and RRA out of the market. All three of those companies are still around, but they don't have half the presence they did 10 or 15 years ago.

    I have a Delton Sport I bought off the shelf for $450, it's yet to jam and shoots 2-3 MOA. I built an A1 retro rifle out of mixmaster hobby grade parts, it's yet to jam and shoots 2-3 MOA. Only hard part of building it was getting that friggin front detent pin in. Just not seeing what the premium for a Stag would really get you there.
     
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    I, too, don’t wish to dump on Stag, but for the money there are nicer rifle to be had.
    Or the same PSA or RTB branded rifle, with all the extra things you’ll find you’ll want.

    Targets like scopes. Iron sights beg for a neat looking sling. Is your rifle form inspired by Col. Sanders? Then a bipod and bags are in order.
    Every rifle needs ammunition, money is nice for that…:)

    But, yeah, Stag is fine, I guess.:D
     
  13. DynoDan1

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    Thanks to all for the input and advice.
    Since I'm rather impatient, impulsive and the store was the only one in town that had it in stock
    I went ahead and "pulled the trigger" so to speak and bought the Stag-15 but got a much better deal because I bought a bunch of other stuff to go with it.
    Will be heading up into the mountains sometime this week and file a report. 20211107_170623[1].jpg
     
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    Well it’s got a Magpul forearm with MLOK and flat top so you’ve got options, which it seems you’ve exercised with an RDS.
     
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    Yeah, it came with a different forearm that wouldn't allow me to use the Magpul bipod I bought.
    It also comes with a removeable handle so I could mount a Vortex Sparc II red dot.
    Also picked up a 15 round magazine that looks like it holds 30 rounds.
    The guy at the store winked and whispered it could be modified to accept an actual 30 rounds with a little work.
    I'll just leave it alone for now;):thumbup:
    Have yet to shoot it but I will probably shoot it some time this week.
     
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    Eventually Colorado may right itself again or you’ll be stuck with acquiring those legacy 30-rounders. Much as I detest ridiculous laws, I do my level best to abide by them.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not sure why he has issues with his AR's. He seems to be pretty technically minded. He has a degree in mechanical engineering and a number of years experience in the field. Couldn't tell ya if he's buying junk parts or assembling it improperly.
    He's probably gonna be PO'd when I show up with this rifle and it makes his look like a POS, which is just about what everybody else's does anyway.
     
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    Most gun laws are BS and most of us are already outlaws and don't even know it or care.
     
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    What we write here matters though, for the sake of our integrity which is forever under scrutiny.
     
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    Under scrutiny?
    By who?
    The gooberment?:rofl:
     
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    Well, yes. :oops:

    Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t watching.;)
    (And stand up citizens don’t say they don’t care about the laws they may or may not be breaking to deny tyranny. We want to change those laws so we aren’t criminalized by our own government.)
    Excellent! And he appreciates your business too. Well done!:)
    Looking forward to the range report.:thumbup:
     
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    Great gun, if you take care of it, it will take care of you. Keep it clean, oil it and buy a bunch of mags :thumbup:
     
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    HA!
    Good luck trying to change unlawful laws.
    Tyranny doesn't care about good laws or righteous laws.
    Tyranny is interested only in getting power and keeping it.
     
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    But THR does care about decorum and not being shut down, so we take care to keep to The High Road.
     
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    So does "decorum" mean complying with bad laws?
     
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