Steel case wolf in a CZ?

[HB]

I like to think Federal and Winchester pay for disinformation bots to poo poo steel case.

 

[jrmiddleton425]

I have shot 400-500 rounds of TulAmmo through a pair of CZs (#1 a 75B and #2 a CZ Custom SP-01) 2014-present. They run like the proverbial sewing machine on that cheap Russian junk. If I could buy a shipping container full of it right now, I'd be glad to get it.

Edit: In addition, I wish to note that since 2014, I have spent so many hours at this keyboard expounding on "Why I Like My CZ Pistols," that some keys, including the arrow keys and the "Z" key are beginning to stick.

It dawned on me while brushing my teeth this morning: I FORGOT "CZECH ASSEMBLY LINE GUY"! If you're scratching your head wondering if I've had too much to drink today, it's some variation on a one-liner joke I have put in several other CZ-related posts.

So...in the wise words of "Czech Assembly Line Guy": "Of course CZ pistol shoot Russian ammo. What use is pistol when Russians invade, if pistol does not shoot Russian ammo?"

 

[Mauser lover]

I like to think Federal and Winchester pay for disinformation bots to poo poo steel case.

I use Winchester's steel case in my CZ too!

 

[Ignition Override]

Old Dog: Yes, so many people simply repeating 'hearsay' about different types of ammo.

Do most people know that Residue is reported to build-up far easier around rigid steel cases, compared with expanding brass cases?
Guys who allow far too much accumulation when using steel might have found that after the gunk gets thicker, they switch back to expandable brass, these cases then "puff out", get Stuck, in said residue---

--because they didn't want to do a bit of chamber scrubbing when using rigid steel. A gunsmith reported this on "PerfectUnion" (Mini 14/30 chat etc) in 2008, along with others.

Cases, lacquer or polymer-coated, primers, powder loads, bimetal (zinc over thin steel) coatings on bullets...many people >> don't Specify which factor(s) << they are trying to ask about.

jrmiddleton425: and so you are suggesting that your CZ is made of high-quality steel, well-designed components, tougher than the softer, cheap steel used in the lowest-cost ammo? This idea is 'over the heads' of so many.
Not many of those people with the concern about steel ammo seem to have much faith in their >> Modern guns' designs <<.

Again, my newish Czechpoint VZ-58 in 7.62x39 just passed the 1,500 rds. (Russian ammo) milestone, and nothing broke ! It seems perfect, and still feeds, fires, extracts & ejects !
A guess? No-I keep a piece of each 20 or 40-rd. ammo 'box' in a labeled plastic bag.

 

[Ernie Bass]

Before the ammo shortage I was shooting the heck out of steel case ammo through my Beretta Nano and Kahr. I mean I was shooting the snot out of it. Buying thousands of rounds at $6.44 a box sent to my door. I put 13,000 rds through the Nano in a year and a half. A whole lot of it was Tula and Wolf ammo. Lol, had the Nano out Sunday and Monday and running like a top. There is so much BS about out there on the steel case ammo. Actually I thought all the myths had vanished years ago.

I find it shoots as good if not better than a lot of American range ammo.
I really wish I had the opportunity to buy Wolf ammo RIGHT NOW. Anyone who still believes in the old myths about steel please send it to me. I will gladly pay you Pre Shortage prices.

PS yes it would get dirty but that was never a problem until around the 250 rd mark where the shell casing would get lightly stuck. I learned to just quickly put a Q tip to clean it which tool about 2 seconds and keep on trucking. And at the end a quick wipe down of the receiver and it was basically clean.

 

[lsudave]

I don't think there's any concern in shooting steel cased ammo out of a pistol. My bigger concern would be consistent load and set-back, and I'm comfortable that Tula/Wolf/Bear has this process down pat. As I understand, there's maybe more issue with shooting through an AR due to design features, but none of that is relevant in a handgun.

Shiny brass is prettier to the eye, and it's a lot easier to reload. Those two features have lent it to being preferred.

 

[SGW Gunsmith]

How much different, other than being steel, would it be shooting aluminum cases like the CCI Blazers? I never liked the steel case bottle-neck rounds unless the rifle chamber was fluted, and the cases were not coated with shellac.

 

[SeanSw]

I used a box in my PCR and it ran fine. It never choked on anything. Should have held onto it longer.

 

[Ivy Mike]

My CZ 75B ate everything I could feed it save for a couple JHP types. Seemed to be an issue with some of the older CZ pistols from the 90s and lots of people thought it was because expanding ammo was illegal in the Czech Republic and thus, they didn't build the guns with anything but FMJ in mind. A couple minutes with a fine file and a some polishing wheels on a dremel to chamfer edges and make the fee ramp slick as ice cured that.
I haven't heard of newer ones doing this so maybe CZ-USA fixed it up with subsequent updates.

But mine had zero problems with steel cases. Load up that Wolf and shoot it. CZ's are not fiddly little custom 1911s.

 

[Ignition Override]

Clean your guns' chambers. Don't blame the ammo if you first use lots of steel, gunk/residue accumulates >> around (outside) << the Rigid Steel Cases, then you switch to expandable brass.

A Mensa membership isn't a prerequisite to know to clean one's gun.

 

[barnetmill]

Here is how the russians reload 7.62x25