Stevens pump ID

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  1. mr_goodbomb

    mr_goodbomb member

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    There are no markings on it except for the serial. 12ga, seems repainted. The store IDed it as a Stevens. I can't find a model.

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    (PS not wearing pants, and before I catch hell, I know not to put my finger in the trigger guard, but I don't even own ammunition for this firearm at this point, the photo was originally for a friend as a joke)
     
  2. mnrivrat

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    Looks like a left hand version of the Savage/Stevens model 67
     
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    Actually looks like a right-handed version of the Stevens Model 67 held left-handed and/or backwards (look at the Pulp Fiction poster). I do not see an ejection port.

    Nice little shotgun. Just one action rod limits its value IMHO.
     
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    I definitly see an ejection port. but also see the backwards poster like the photo is turned inside out ?
     
  5. mr_goodbomb

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    Yeah, my apologies for not flipping. The ejector is on the right side.
     
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    They are very reliable if you doi the following- remove the screw

    holding teh extractor-the large screw on the opposite side from the port-and loktite or glue it back in place. They tend to back out and get lost.
    That is the main problem I have found with these guns.
    If you should need parts, Numrich still has some - www.gunpartscorp.com


    Mark
     
  7. Fred Fuller

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    Might be some markings under the paint on the barrel near the chamber, the stampings tend to be shallow. But it's a Stevens/Savage/whatever 60/70 series (see http://www.urban-armory.com/diagrams/savage67.htm for a partial list of makes/models). They haven't been made for a good while now, I'd say it's likely the example in the picture is older than you are.

    They do tend to break parts, mostly the single action bar and the (cast aluminum) trigger plate extension that the buttstock screw goes into. They don't lend themselves to much disassembly type attention from owners- barrels are screwed into the receivers on many of these variations and are not easily detachable as is the case with later, more modular designs. They are a bear to work on, and the very first step in taking one apart if necessary after making sure it's unloaded (and it's not likely a DIY job) is to remove the buttstock. The buttstock screw puts tension on the screw and pin holding the trigger plate in place in the receiver, making them difficult to impossible to remove, and I've seen several examples all beaten up by owners who didn't know that. They should come with labels IMHO- NO USER SERVICEABLE PARTS INSIDE.

    Worth about $100 or so on the used rack, and they do turn up fairly often- they were relatively inexpensive guns back when they were new, and sold in fair numbers. Some folks have had long life and good service out of them, others have had problems- it's kind of a crap shoot. I wouldn't count on one to deliver a lifetime of hard use myself, OPMMV.

    As a possibly interesting footnote, the US military bought a bunch of them with short stocks (designated the Model 77E) during the late unpleasantness in Southeast Asia, with the intent to issue them to our South Vietnamese allies early in the US involvement in the region. A lot of those which actually did get issued broke as described above. Interestingly enough a good many of them seem to have been issued to US GIs (both Army and USMC) rather than Vietnamese village militia due to a shortage of available weapons in theater at the time. The 77E may be among the least known and most seldom seen of US military marked fighting shotguns. See http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/50/lid/3548 for a picture of one example... see http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t28613.html for more oldphart discussion.

    fwiw,

    lpl
     
  8. mr_goodbomb

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    So I guess I made a poor purchase. Drat. I exchanged it for a Nagant revolver and $50 at a pawn shop. He insured me it worked well and would take abuse, but I'm sure those guys would see you a TV with a video game controller sticking out of the screen as new. I won't be able to test it out any time soon, sadly.
     
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    Safe gun handling

    It doesn't matter if you "don't have any ammo that fits", DO NOT PUT YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE !!! Too many people and pets have been killed and wounded by "unloaded" firearms to fool around with the safety rules. JMHO and YMM NOT V.
     
  10. Fred Fuller

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    Drat.

    I hope you got one of the ones that will run forever- it seems to be pretty much luck of the draw as to which ones chug on for decades and which ones break something. Hope you were into the Nagant right... . The price I quoted is for used guns of that make/model/approximate condition in this area, used gun prices tend to vary pretty wildly from region to region within the US. And I don't know how prices run in your area. Before you decide you were taken advantage of, look around a bit for similar guns in other dealers' racks and compare.

    I can't say we're the absolutely accurate font of all wisdom around here where deals are concerned, but it might not be a bad idea to ask first and trade later...

    Meanwhile, work on making it an absolutely ineradicable habit to keep that trigger finger straight and indexed on the receiver at all times when not actually touching off a round. If you'll find a place that you can actually feel something specific with the tip of your index finger, like the bottom edge of the ejection port or a screw in the side of the receiver, that might help ingrain the habit to index that finger properly. I use 870s mostly and the house guns here all have Sidesaddles, and the front screw heads that hold the Sidesaddles on are all pretty much lacking finish because that's where I habitually index my trigger finger.

    And find yourself some light birdshot loads (1 or 1 1/8 ounce of shot, 3 or 3 1/8 Dr. Eq. powder for a 12 gauge) and get started learning how to run the gun...

    Stay Safe,

    lpl
     
  11. mr_goodbomb

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    Thanks for the recommendations.
     
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    These are not bad shotguns, just, for some reason, not as desirable as Mossys and Remmies. Even 1200/1300 Wins go for more. Utility gun.
     
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