Steyr M-A1 pistol

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  1. jondar

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    I have been kicking around applying for a CC permit and along with that trying to choose a carry weapon in case I do. I thought I had it narrowed down to a G26 or a Springfield XD Compact in 9mm. Then I opened the July edition of the Rifleman and on the inside of the front cover is the above. I can't find anything on this particular Steyr, size, barrell etc. I can't tell if it is around the size of the G-26 or more like the G19. It's a good looking gun and from the picture appears less "top heavy" than the Glock and Springfield. Has anyone had experience with this model?
     
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    Yes, thanks for the info. Appears to be somewhere in size between the G26 and G19.
     
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    I have a S-40 Steyr......

    and it is slightly smaller than a Glock 23, so the post above pertaining to size is pretty close. One of the finest pistols I have ever shot.......I hope the mags on the new pistol fit the old models, however, I read the S compact series will not be made.....pity.......chris3
     
  6. Dollar An Hour

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    I've handled a M9-A1 and fell in love with the ergonomics. Seems about G19 size but with a more comfy grip, better trigger and less top-heavy.

    Low bore-axis is said to make Steyrs very soft shooters. Some people don't like the trapezoidal sights but they can be replaced with 3-dots.

    I plan to add a Steyr to my collection for sure. :cool:
     
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    If only Steyr is a bit aggressive in their marketing, Glock will surely have a very good fight. The Steyr feels good in the hand and manageable when shooting. Finish is also given the tenifer treatment which is another thing that made Glock so good. This is one gun worth adding into your armament. I just wished that parts and magazines are abundant.
     
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    They do, the internals are pretty much unchanged (as are the slides), only difference between the old models and the A1 models is the plastic that wraps the frame.

    SA1s are due out any time now :)

    they will be limited at first, but they are indeed going to be made.
     
  9. Dollar An Hour

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    Curious - the specs on the steyr site lists "right angle sights" under "extras".

    Does that mean they are shipping the pistols with an extra set of standard sights in case you don't care for the trapezoids?
     
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    no, that means the "Right angle sights with Trilux" (Night Sights) are optional.
     
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    Like the SIG Pro, this gun is VERY robustly put together inside, with it's polymer frame mated to a steel inner "tub". Ergonomics and grip angle and damn near perfect, and I actually like the trapezoid sights. The only thing that has kept me from being really enthusiastic about this weapon and getting one is it's hit-and-miss reliability record/reports. It seems to have real issues on some guns with the extractor......definitely the gun's weak spot. Also, if the extractor or another part goes bad, shooters report extremely long wait times for parts and no domestic support.
     
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    Tried one last weekend & was impressed! 100% reliable w/ 3 diff't brand of ammo, really nice trigger (for poly - Glockesque type trigger) and really accurate :cool:
     
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    Because of its compactness I tend to carry my M357 during the summer over my M&P .
     
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    Aside from hit and miss reliability, this gun will never take off unless they fix the lack of support, parts and acc's.
     
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    Steyr reliability is not hit and miss, a few of the older pistols had some minor issues that seemed to work themselves out when broken in, and the newer ones for the most part have no issues. The problem is that most folks don't post on a board about not having a problem, so the only stuff you end up reading has to do with folks with issues, many of which were either solved by a thorough cleaning or ended up being a magazine problem and unrelated to the functioning of the pistol. I can see where this might lead you to believe there are reliability issues, but it's simply not the case. In fact, there was a recent poll of this question on the steyrclub website, and the overwhelming majority of owners either had never had a malfunction or had a few early FTE's prior to a good cleaning.

    I have close to 5k rounds though my steyr and have yet to have a single malfunction.

    As to the issue of support, Steyr indeed had some growing pains when they initially tried to enter the US market (changed distributors/suppliers/support a few times), which gave them something of a bad rap with some folks, but they have eliminated the middleman and opened their own support center in GA, and the reports coming from folks who have had occasion to deal with them have been nothing less than excellent, even to the point of extending warranty service to guns long out of the warranty period and for things that wouldn't ordinarily be covered, such as damage from abuse or accident.

    The older Steyr pistols had compatibility problems with regard to accessories, having a proprietary rail mount and all (they were built, after all, prior to there being a clear winner among the different types of rails), but there is an adaptor available that will allow the mounting of standard lights and other accessories to the older pistols. The new A1 does not suffer from this, it has the standard picatinny rail.

    In short, service, parts, and accessories are no longer an issue with these guns, so if that's all that's gotten you wary, take a second look. Or don't, that means more Steyrs for me ;) The Steyr is a superior design, low bore axis, almost no muzzle flip, ergonomics are the best among the tupperware pistols, it has (IMO) the best trigger among them, and the sights are perfect for rapid target acquisition (and re-acquisition, allowing for quick follow-up shots). For precision shooting, you may want to replace them with 3-dot sights, but this is not an issue.

    Hope this helps,

    ~Rick
     
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    Now if they would just put one out in .45acp ;)
     
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    Heh, from your mouth to their ears!

    ~Rick
     
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    and/or 10mm


    I want Steyr to make two more pistols, an M or S sized in 10mm and a subcompact "XS" pistol (I photoshopped together what I'd like)

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  19. Dollar An Hour

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    .40 vs .357 Sig

    Anybody had the opportunity to try a M-A1 in .40 and .357 Sig? Steyrs are supposed to be mellow as far as recoil & muzzle flip, so which caliber is going to be snappier?

    I like the fact .40 is cheaper to buy ammo for. .357 Sig ammo prices are insane.
     
  20. Deodanth

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    I've shot both the .40 and the .357. The .40 is extremely mellow, reminds me of shooting a 9mm. The .357 is a little more "snappy", but not much so, and both calibers shoot very well, with next to no muzzle flip and very tame recoil for the calibers. I chalk it up to very well-thought-out ergonomics and design features such as a 111 degree point angle and a very low bore axis. The first of the new S-A1 pistols have arrived in the US, I've only seen them in 9mm but seeing as the pistol was designed as a .40 platform I'm sure the other two calibers are on the way.

    I've never been a huge 10mm fan, I think it's kind of like opera, you either like it or you don't. I find it to be a little tough for me to control, but then again I've only shot the Smith, so other designs may be better about it. My all-time favorite is the .45 ACP, I have a colt combat commander that is mellow, dead-on accurate, and a lot of fun to shoot. If it were a little easier to conceal, I'd carry it all the time. As it is, once we get to long-sleeve weather it's my go-to gun.

    The Steyr is my pick for best all-around polymer pistol ever. I have around 5k rounds through my .40/.357 (I have a conversion barrel) with nary a malfunction. The sights are dead-on, make for super rapid target aquisition (although if you're into precision shooting, you might want to swap them for 3-dots), the gun is a dream to shoot, the trigger is the best (IMO) among these types of pistols. I know Glock has a huge following, and in an all-out torture test they may hold up better than a Steyr, I never looked into it, but in the areas of the trigger and the ergonomics, I think Steyr is the clear winner. I was looking at a Sig 226 but now I'm considering getting a M9 or maybe one of the smaller S9's to play around with at the range since it's so much cheaper to shoot.

    ~Rick
     
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    Picked up a M9-A1 a couple weeks ago. Zero problems on the first trip to the range through 150 rounds of ammo, including a box of CCI Blazer Aluminum. Very accurate, and sights were dead-on from the factory.

    Minimal muzzle flip just like everyone says and super easy to field strip which is always a plus. :)
     
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    I very much enjoy mine (9mm version):

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  23. star 9 mm

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    steyr m 40

    Excellent Weapon love it easy to conceal, reliable I did have initial fears but were soon resolved when the dealer allowed me to fire one at the range it does have a little recoil but it is accurate It took well over 1000 rounds that day from both me and the seller it did miss feed once but Know I am a believer that the 40 cal austrian I now own will produce far better than any automatic I own
     
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