Stoeger coach gun

[cdahl383]

For occasional use, the Stoegers are not a bad gun. Do not confuse them with a high-quality gun, but for range fun, or sitting in the corner, maybe a little hunting, they work. The double trigger is better, a simpler design with less to go wrong. A little Gunslik on the hinge pin for a while with smooth it out, then replace it with a small amount of wheel bearing grease.

Yep, that’s pretty much my intended use, occasional range fun and possible home defense use. My wife is able to operate it easily with the break action. It’s a fun gun to shoot!

I got the double trigger as I heard there were issues with the single trigger. Also along the lines of your thinking, figured there would be less issues with the double trigger as it’s a simpler design.

 

[George P]

Double triggers are awesome for a SxS, especially for hunting; allows quick choke choice.

 

[gregp74]

CZ (made by in Turkey by Huglu) shotguns are nice, IMO a great value for the dollar. They have two SxS with exposed hammers, the "Hammer Coach" with short barrels and the "Hammer Classic" with standard length 30" barrels. I have the Hammer Classic and love it. Nice workmanship, fit and finish are very good for a gun in this price range (retails for a tad over $1000, I gave $900). The coach version has fixed cylinder chokes, the long-barrel has screw-in chokes and you get five with the gun (Cyl, IC, Mod, Imp Mod, and Full). Comes with a nice hard case, too. The stocks are Turkish walnut, the checkering looks to be laser engraved and well done, but flat surfaced and not a diamond point texture like hand checkering. My stocks are a bit plain, but I think their higher-end guns might have stocks with more character (tigering, burl, etc.). Still, a beautiful gun. I'm using mine for skeet, clays and trap, replacing an older Savage that has fixed mod/full chokes.

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I really like those CZ hammer coaches. My favorite shop had one in stock over the winter and I came close to buying it but didn't want to spend the money at the time. I kinda wish I would have then then because they're going for a lot more now if you can find them.

(And on that note I still haven't bought a shotgun even though I've looked at just about everything under the sun.)

 

[Wingnuts]

I'm looking for double trigger model in 20 ga. From what I've read the light primer strikes are in the single trigger models. I prefer double triggers anyhow! Any leads would be greatly appreciated!
Be well, be safe

 

[Ernie Bass]

Double triggers are awesome for a SxS, especially for hunting; allows quick choke choice.

Depends on where you hunt. Where I hunt, the deer bolt so fast out of the brush and swamps there is not time to choose. All almost every occasion I will choose a choke and use the same in both barrels dependent on the ammo I will be using and how well that ammo groups after many trips to the range. No time to get choosy about which trigger to pull or judge which selective trigger to use. One trigger is the only way I would go.That said, different game different sport would dictate another choice. The great things about shotguns, they have a large variety of uses and like any tool you can choose which tool you like. While I do not have a SXS I do have a OV and in my experience the single trigger having failures is way over exaggerated on the internet.
I also have no problem with a Single barrel shotgun for hunting deer and Turkey. I have many semi auto's but they never make it on a deer hunt. I do not want a barrel over 20" for the distance I hike into the woods nor anything longer because of the terrain. Light weight, fast to target easy to carry. If I do hunt a field etc. I will choose a different choke, but again, do not need two different chokes. I know each chokes capabilities. I spend a lot of time shooting Buckshot.
Shotguns for the most part, and for me are just for hunting Deer, Turkey and Rabbits with hounds (and home defense). I have a gotten rid of most of my Semi's. And will be getting rid of more. Just no need for one. Will keep a couple just because.

 

[AlexanderA]

CZ (made by in Turkey by Huglu) shotguns are nice, IMO a great value for the dollar. They have two SxS with exposed hammers, the "Hammer Coach" with short barrels and the "Hammer Classic" with standard length 30" barrels. I have the Hammer Classic and love it. Nice workmanship, fit and finish are very good for a gun in this price range (retails for a tad over $1000, I gave $900).

IMO, the classic "coach gun" should have exposed hammers. The Stoeger lacks this feature. The Turkish guns are high quality, but (again IMO) are a bit overpriced. There are Chinese guns in the $300 range, but these have exposed "cocking levers" instead of bona fide hammers. The same goes for the Russian-made guns marketed under the Remington trademark.

 

[bangswitch]

The Turkish guns are high quality, but (again IMO) are a bit overpriced.

I read that a lot, and maybe there are some whose quality doesn't justify the price; I think the Huglu is priced about right; if there were something they could add for the price, I think it would be more character in the wood, like some tigering or burl. As far as the metalwork goes, the gun is very tight, nicely polished where it needs to be, and the case color is real and not chemically applied, at least according to CZ-USA. My triggers have a nice, clean break without an overly heavy pull and are the same (double triggers) effort. The barrel finish is called "black chrome", and you can see it is much darker than a blued finish. The barrels are chrome lined, because they are rated for steel shot up to #5.

I don't think you'd find a double shotgun by anybody with the features and quality this one has for much less money.

 

[George P]

AlexanderA said: ↑
The Turkish guns are high quality, but (again IMO) are a bit overpriced.

HUH? Are you Serious? Do you know what a quality SxS from Spain, Italy, Germany, Austria, let alone England, costs? A Turkish gun of BEST quality, like my S&W Elite Gold, nee Cabelas Dickinson runs a very low cost in comparison. I guess you are only used to really cheap Savage and other POS guns........................what a shame.

 

[AlexanderA]

The Turkish lira is in the toilet right now, on international money exchanges. Given the currency situation, everything made in Turkey should be dirt cheap. It's not. I suspect that CZ, as the marketing agent, is siphoning off a good bit of the markup.

 

[DocRock]

HUH? Are you Serious? Do you know what a quality SxS from Spain, Italy, Germany, Austria, let alone England, costs? A Turkish gun of BEST quality, like my S&W Elite Gold, nee Cabelas Dickinson runs a very low cost in comparison. I guess you are only used to really cheap Savage and other POS guns........................what a shame.

In addition to which, the Huglu Guns are not built to the AKUS standards. When DeHaan was importing Huglus, quite a bit of additional QC was involved because the straight Huglu guns didn’t cut the mustard. It seems to me that CZ have done a good job of standardizing QC on their Huglu-made guns, but we must keep things in perspective. These are not high quality guns. They are good value for money propositions. But a sub $1000 SxS is not, and cannot be a high quality gun.

Because economics. I have demonstrated the economics of manufacture in previous posts and will not do so again. But “looks good and has done several hundred rounds without breaking” does not a high quality gun make.

The Huglu made CZ guns seem good value, for the money, as field guns. They are not “high quality” guns. Why people seem so determined to imagine or to fool themselves that an inexpensive shotgun can be “just as good as” a much more expensive one I cannot fathom. Most of us do not need a Purdey, Holland & Holland, or even a Perazzi to shoot well or enjoy shooting. But an inexpensive field gun is not as well made, durable, or well shooting as even a mid level Caesar Guerini, for example. And grand pappy’s Fox B is not very good at all.

 

[George P]

Mark did a great job upgrading Huglus to really nice guns; too bad he could not maintain that service

 

[George P]

The Turkish lira is in the toilet right now, on international money exchanges. Given the currency situation, everything made in Turkey should be dirt cheap. It's not. I suspect that CZ, as the marketing agent, is siphoning off a good bit of the markup.

With the value of the US dollar inb the toilet, it should be the same here for everything, and yet it is not; besides the guns here now were built a while ago; AKUS builds a great gun, Huglu, not so much