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Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by lgcal20ga, Jul 18, 2013.

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  1. lgcal20ga

    lgcal20ga Member

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    I have a couple four drawer blue print file cabinets that I use for handguns to reside. The cabinets are all metal, and would like to put something between the guns and the metal. Originally thought about using kitchen cabinet shelf liners made out of a sponge rubber material, but concerned that might hold moisture, etc. and lead to rust. Any suggestions?

    Larry
     
  2. Skylerbone

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    Closed cell foam will work, never open cell.
     
  3. Gaucho Gringo

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    What about those gun safe handgun storage racks if you have enough vertical height? They come in all kinds of configurations.
     
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    The soft "non skid" stuff that looks like beaded fishnet would work well. As would cheap bath towel material.

    But keep in mind that the whole key to avoiding rust issues is to ensure that the inside of the cabinet is kept warm to avoid high humidity. So if your cabinet is in a cooler than outside basement then the guns are at risk. That's where something like a Golden Rod heater in the base of the cabinet comes into play. Or some other way of drying the air in the cabinet. The issue here is that the cabinets leak too much air so it's useless to use things like silica gel packs or similar air drying tricks.
     
  5. lgcal20ga

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    Thanks Skyler. Not sure if what I have is closed foam or not.

    BC No height at all for the safe type pistol holders. This is a very large cabinet with four drawers that are each about 3 inches high. Probably 42 inch wide and 30 inch deep. Handguns lay flat on their side very nicely inside each drawer. The two cabinets I have stack on top of each other by design. So 8 drawers. Lots of room. It is pretty open. And it is in a basement location. Dehumidifier going all the time. I'll have to check on the space below the cabinet to see if I can get a Golden Rod in there. Its up on a platform to be off the floor. Never had water, but you never know.

    Larry
     
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    If you want to find out if it is closed or open cell take a small piece and dunk it into water. Dry it off with a towel. If you can squeeze any water out of it (like a sponge) it is open cell and it will absorb and hold moisture. I would advise to only use the top drawers, the moisture will be worse near the floor. Another idea I have used are racks made from vinyl coated steel or plastic used to stack plates in. Try Bed Bath and Beyond or any big store that sell kitchen goods. I have also built wooden racks with wood dowels to hold the gun by the muzzle. The best thing you can do is keep them oiled with a good rust preventing oil like Breakfree CLP, Breakfree Collector or Eeezox. And try to get them out of the basement. Most basements are ( or can be) death to firearms. Especially if there's any carpeting down there. The humidifer will help but may not be able to handle the load if the humidity goes above 50%.
     
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    I just use wax paper as a barrier between my handguns and metal in my gun cabinet. No issues in the couple years I've done it. Or you could lay it on top of foam.
     
  8. Jim K

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    Any padded material should do, but put some VPI paper in each drawer.

    Jim
     
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    Even your basic "Contact Paper" will keep metal from metal; go to fabric store and get some polyester fabric - won't hold moisture
     
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    All of my guns have been laying on the carpet shelves in my safe for decades with no ill effects whatsoever.
     
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    Lotta misinformation here.

    1) If you don't know what is in the material you will leave an oiled gun on how do you know it won't melt bluing and rust even stainless steel? People don't even put pictures next to or print quality books except on acid-free paper!

    2) The warming rods are NOT to create warmth mostly -- they are to MOVE AIR and dry ambient air out a little. Just a little, and it helps. Water condenses on the colder surface where there is a change in temperature. As air warms the metal stays cooler as it warms more slowly and the water vapor in the air comes out of suspension and forms condensation on the cooler metal. The metal will ALWAYS change slower than the air around it. A little air flow helps keep condensation off by moving warmed moisture-loving air past it. this is all at the microscopic level.

    I'd talk to... A professional gun safe manufacturer or seller -- ta da! Good luck.
     
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    Most likely because it is either 100% polyester or 100% nylon material, both of which do not hold moisture
     
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    Add some engraving and gold fill, gold plated trigger or gold bead sight and there can be problems with gases released from materials like carpets and glues. Even presentation boxes lined in velvet or flocked can damage delicate finishes.
     
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    Actually, what might be just the ticket would be mechanic's toolbox shelf liner material.

    But, you might have to find a MACCO or Snap-On dealer to get rolls the width of a flat file's shelves.

    Once ypu have the underlayment, you could shop for industrial supplier for die-cut foam sheets to make spaces for what you want to lay upon the shelves.

    Only real problem with a flat file is that it's not the best for getting a lock into. Best bet is a bar down the front fitted into a pair of hasps, with the top one rigged to take a pad lock of some sort.
     
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    Wrap them in gun socks.

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    Thanks!

    Thanks for all the great ideas. The hinged bar for a lock is what I was thinking I would have to do, should work. Its in a locked room to begin with. I'll get busy and see if I can post some pics when its done. Thanks.:)
     
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