Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by matt35750, Aug 21, 2014.
Some great pics.
In the US, it would be wrapped in some sterilized packaging, then contained in some molle webbed zippered monstrosity and sold to the US Military for ten times what it's worth.
Tactical Tailor makes this one, and I don't think I'd call it a monstrosity.
And, while a tourniquet really doesn't need to be kept sterile, I don't think I'd want it wrapped around my rifle if I really needed it.
http://www.swattourniquet.com/ under $10 most places.
It doesn't work nearly as well as other options out there like the CAT, SOFT, etc. but it certainly is cheap and simple. Biggest reason I wouldn't put it out in the open on my rifle stock, is that all it takes is a cut or hole in the rubber and now there is a very real chance it'll split/break and be rendered useless when used.
Looks like a field expedient 'Splint lashing strap', 'Could be used for a rifle sling', 'Tie it to a helmet strap and bail water out of a creek to drink', 'Hold your pants up when the cheap belt they gave you breaks', or 'Secure a prisoners hands behind his back' sort of kit to keep handy to me.
Maybe they don't have 550 cord, plastic handcuffs, & 100 MPH tape falling out of supply choppers a radio call and 15 minutes away?
Or don't feel like carrying it all, when the Russian tourniquet serves almost as well for all the same things?
Just guessing though.
So you would prefer rubber tubing? I'll choose sterile pressure bandages and blot clotting sponges every time.
I agree that a SWAT-T has a lot of alternate uses over a CAT or SOFT, but I think those devices make better sole purpose tourniquets.
Just making an observation. Compared to the GSA acquisitions process, the idea of Russian practicality seemed like something worth a moment of contemplation. Chock it up to late night ramblings......
They take the same approach to everything. Simple and rugged. Like the AK. or their aircraft. If it breaks, sucks to be the guy who goes down with it, but that's why they make so many. Quantity over quality kind of thing. Holds true with your arguments about the risk of infection or failure due to tearing. That's the mentality..... The benefits of a cheap and mass-produced product outweigh the risks.
Rest assured that I'll be the guy crying "wolverines" the loudest should the day come where we're faced with a bunch of Putin-ites coming at us with surgical tubing wrapped around their rifle stocks.
I handled plenty of the ones in Army med kits and you're completely incorrect.
I'd take a CAT over the Russian elastic strap tourniquet any day, but if they'd have just put a square ring on one end where you had the option to loop it back to cinch it the thing would have been much better.
You have to understand the Soviet/Russian view towards treatment of wounded. Their soldiers were left to their own devices.
In Afghanistan & Chechnya, their TOE listed one medic plus assistant per battalion... US has medics at platoon and squad levels with additional assets at battalion. American servicemen survived their wounds at far higher levels than the Sovs/Russians always.
Their soldiers had to do with most of their own battlefield wound management. Without fast treatment nor reliable evacuation possible, their only hope was to "wrap a tourniquet around that!"
Questions about first aid stuff and differences b/n East vs West battlefield medical care really aren't in the scope of THR.
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