Strangers help man robbed at gun point

[JustinJ]

What could be better for the protection of gun rights than some innocent getting hit by a stray bullet during an unnecessary shootout when there was no longer immediate danger of harm?

 

[12131]

I'm glad that shooting a fleeing armed robber is legal in Texas. I wish it was that way in the rest of the country. That could be millions of dollars saved by tax payers to try and house violent criminals. I like the idea of the hue and cry law. Something like that should be revisited. If people don't want to get involved to help stop crime then they can pay a fine. Sure, as long as they're not in imminent danger of course.


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Sounds familiar? Requiring action from inaction, or pay a fine.

 

[stonecutter2]

“I don’t believe in guns,” said Dorsey. “I don’t own a gun. I’m totally at the mercy of my saviors. They obviously sent two angels to help me. These people protected me when I couldn’t protect myself.”

1) Start believing in guns. They do exist. Not only the 2 held by your "angels" but the one pointed at your chest, too.

2) The two men weren't angels. Just two law abiding citizens that wanted to help. They also didn't protect him, the robbery was over. He couldn't protect himself because he didn't believe in guns, and didn't own a gun, but more importantly that bar is probably a gun free zone. Any patron is a defenseless victim as they return to their car. I'm not saying that people should be allowed to carry in bars (alcohol and guns - bad idea), i'm saying criminals find a way...just as this one did. They know when they can have the advantage against their victims.

 

[JFtheGR8]

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Originally Posted by JFtheGR8

I'm glad that shooting a fleeing armed robber is legal in Texas. I wish it was that way in the rest of the country. That could be millions of dollars saved by tax payers to try and house violent criminals. I like the idea of the hue and cry law. Something like that should be revisited. If people don't want to get involved to help stop crime then they can pay a fine. Sure, as long as they're not in imminent danger of course.


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Sounds familiar? Requiring action from inaction, or pay a fine.

I believe it is ones civic duty to do whatever is necessary to prevent crime using legal avenues. All too often witnesses claim they didn't see anything for fear of retaliation. Well then, if you can be placed at the scene of a crime and don't wish to cooperate with an investigation then pay up. The money can be used to bolster crime prevention in high crime areas where people have selective vision.


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[12131]

I believe it is ones civic duty to do whatever is necessary to prevent crime using legal avenues. All too often witnesses claim they didn't see anything for fear of retaliation. Well then, if you can be placed at the scene of a crime and don't wish to cooperate with an investigation then pay up. The money can be used to bolster crime prevention in high crime areas where people have selective vision.


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You are kind of scrambling everything together here.
There's a huge difference between cooperating with the investigation at the scene of the crime (crime already happened and done, and investigation started) as a witness, and "hue and cry" (shouting out to others and pursuing the criminal).
Are you going to fine me, if I don't assist you in chasing after the criminal? If he has a gun, will I be fined, if I don't chase? Even if he doesn't have a gun (impossible to know), will you fine me if I don't chase, because I told you I was afraid for my safety (he could have a gun concealed, you know).
About the "witness" at the crime scene, if I told you I didn't see anything, how can you tell if I really didn't see anything, or if I was just too afraid of retaliation? Are you going to polygraph me to see if I told you the truth? Then fine me, if I did not?

 

[JFtheGR8]

Quote:

You are kind of scrambling everything together here.
There's a huge difference between cooperating with the investigation at the scene of the crime (crime already happened and done, and investigation started) as a witness, and "hue and cry" (shouting out to others and pursuing the criminal).
Are you going to fine me, if I don't assist you in chasing after the criminal? If he has a gun, will I be fined, if I don't chase? Even if he doesn't have a gun (impossible to know), will you fine me if I don't chase, because I told you I was afraid for my safety (he could have a gun concealed, you know).
About the "witness" at the crime scene, if I told you I didn't see anything, how can you tell if I really didn't see anything, or if I was just too afraid of retaliation? Are you going to polygraph me to see if I told you the truth? Then fine me, if I did not?

Yeah, I knew that would be the response I'd get. I'm not sure how to institute either a hue and cry or a selective vision type law. The purpose is to at least get people to think more deeply into the matter to find solutions. Guns are not the problem but nobody can seem to come up with a solution that isn't met with resistance. I believe that if people get involved with their communities much of the problems will be identified and addressed. Otherwise people just bicker about what should be done and nothing gets accomplished except politicians taking away our freedoms.



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[12131]

Yeah, I knew that would be the response I'd get. I'm not sure how to institute either a hue and cry or a selective vision type law. The purpose is to at least get people to think more deeply into the matter to find solutions. Guns are not the problem but nobody can seem to come up with a solution that isn't met with resistance. I believe that if people get involved with their communities much of the problems will be identified and addressed. Otherwise people just bicker about what should be done and nothing gets accomplished except politicians taking away our freedoms.



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No, I hear you.
But what's to be done right there (when the crime happens) should rest on the individuals, I think. More government involvement with rules and regulations is not the answer.