No flame from me. No hunt is the same and sometimes ***** just happens that you can't control. I have made a couple of clean misses in my time that I could have sworn were going to be in the kill zone. On one of those I know for a fact that my scope took a dump on me. The others are anyone's guess. Either way I suggest if you take a trip to Vegas check your pockets and make sure you don't have a stray Barnes bullet anywhere. They are bad luck for you!