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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 9mmforMe, Sep 19, 2010.

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  1. 9mmforMe

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    So my wife, who is going to law school, had a fellow female student over today to work on a project. As this lady was leaving my wife saw that I was on the computer and mentioned that I spend a good amount of time on THR...nothing else...just a simple statement. Her friend, as she's walking out the door, just out of the blue said, "oh guns...they kill people." She was partly down the stairs outside my townhouse before I'd realized that I'd just been "raped" by the oldest, lamest contention in the book. The bad news is that she will be coming over weekly and my wife pleaded with me not to "start something" with her. This really sucks since I'm not one to sit by and listen to specious arguments about gun control and social violence theories.

    Maybe I should invite her to the range? :evil:
     
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  2. Onward Allusion

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    Yes, you should.


     
  3. Danb1215

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    LOL. good one.
    Did she take a car to get to/from your house?...they kill people.
    Did she drink any alcohol at your house?...that kills people.
    Did she stay for dinner?.....knives kill people.
    Do you have a dog?...those kill people.
    The stairs she walked down...those kill people.
    etc...

    Look at it this way, virtually everything in your house can/does kill someone somewhere eventually, at least she only made one stupid/incomplete statement while she was there, she could have gone on for a while...
     
  4. Black Knight

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    If she accepts your invitation make shooting a game. Take some baloons and attach them to the target board and pop them. Make a big dart board or a few and play darts with bullets. Play poker the same way. Then show how in many parts of the country people still hunt to put food on the table. Of course this is after the safety briefing.
     
  5. hardworker

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    It'd be one thing if getting into it with her would change anything but it won't and will be all around counter productive.
     
  6. Gato Montés

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    I wouldn't try to do anything. Let your wife finish her project and don't worry about it. If I'm a guest, I don't make smug judgmental comments toward the host. Someone who does that is not worth the time.
     
  7. JEB

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    if you can get her to go, then go for it! its funny how people that dont like guns somehow manage to have a load of fun when a shooter takes them to the range for the first time.
     
  8. Hardtarget

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    O.K. If she starts on the guns...you ask if she has a computer...on line?..have a scanner?..digital camera?....then she has the assault weapon of child molesters. She should just turn herself in to the police. She will, one day, molest a child...:evil:

    Its as reasonable as"guns kill people".:fire::cuss::banghead:

    That attitude makes me :barf:.

    Mark

    (I don't think I've ever used this many smilies1 :D
     
  9. ccsniper

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    she is in law school? She may just be picking at you to try to get into an argument. Lawyers do that.
     
  10. hammerklavier

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    Tell her she should at least shoot some guns before she makes a judgment call, so invite her to the range.
     
  11. skwab

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    she's your wife's study partner - personally I'd leave it alone unless she brings it up again. If she does, then I would take that opportunity to try to educate her, and then offer to take her to the range - if she's going to be a lawyer, she should learn how to protect herself - approach her with that emphasis. Otherwise, you might be picking a no-win fight with a close minded anti that will get you nothing but a ticked off spouse!
     
  12. mnrivrat

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    Put a "This house is protected by S&W" sticker on the door .
     
  13. labhound

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    Just agree with her and don't say anything else! ;)
     
  14. Ragnar Danneskjold

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    If it's your wife's study partner, you need to put her first. Don't F up your wife's chances at a good grade to win a political argument. I'm not saying don't try to win her over, but be cognizant of what the real priorities are: your wife's schooling.
     
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  15. omegaflame

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    Don't say anything. The next time she is coming over, take out every "assault" (in the media's eyes) weapon you have for "cleaning". AK-47/AR-15/whatever.

    Preferably somewhere where it's visible from their work area. Don't get into a political argument with her. If she makes a statement like that, simply make a comment about how incredibly rude (and naive as well if you want) she is and tell her to please concentrate on their project it as it's not her house. (I would then make attempts to de-escalate the situation from then on out). If she keeps going you've got a class A nutjob.

    If your wife strongly feels against it then don't do it.
     
  16. MrCleanOK

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    Hell yeah guns kill people. Now, it just so happens that it's because we have a tendency to point them at each other and pull the trigger, but that's immaterial.
     
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    Yes, and incompetent and/or arrogant lawyers also get people killed, and from my experience, the vast majority of them are incompetent and pompous.
     
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    "Guns. They kill people."

    And thank god for that. They wouldn't be nearly as useful for self defense if all they did was make the bad guy feel socially awkward.

    Used responsibly yes, Virginia, guns kill the people who would deprive us of our lives and liberty, and keep alive the people we care about.

    Your wife's friend needs more than an education about firearms. She needs to understand some more basic things about the nature of evil and self reliance in the face of it.

    Which is well beyond your mandate.
     
  19. shockwave

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    Absolutely true. And yes, guns kill people. Sometimes, it's good to be the strong, silent type. Quibbling and quarreling with people over political peccadilloes is petty behavior, at best. When the wife's study partner comes over, smile and be nice, leave them alone. This way, you score points with everyone. The other way, you're a gigantic ... the word starts with 'd' and rhymes with 'whoosh.'
     
  20. FROGO207

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    Yes sometimes what you DO NOT say is more High Road than what needs to be said. That said if the opportunity arises then a well thought out educational tidbit that you sneak in under her radar with that will get her to thinking about RKBA then good for you.:D
    I find that trying to argue stupid with logic makes me into the more stupid party. Old saying---Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
     
  21. oldbanjo

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    I wouldn't discuss anything with someone that stupid. You need to stay out of it but your wife can look a you tube "gun control" see Susanne's video and then she (NOT YOU) can mention the horrible thing that happened to Susanne"s parents. IT WOULD BE A LOOSING BATTLE FOR YOU.
     
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    You could have a couple guns out cleaning them next time and have a camera running. Let here rant. Then see if there professor might like to have a class about that subject. Maybe
     
  23. eight433

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    Yeah, guns kill people. Just like spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.

    I would drop it. Very disrespectful of her, but let it go. If she says it again, I would ask her to check her attitude at the door, but leave guns out of the argument, for your wife's sake.
     
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    next time she comes over, make sure you're carrying openly.
     
  25. Dr T

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    Your wife's schooling is more important than any transitory gratification you will get by provoking her study partner. Help her get through the semester by making the study easier. It will pay off long term

    I suggest that you use your wife's study time to vacate the premises and go to an indoor range open at night, a movie, gun shopping, toy shopping with the kids, bible study, working out, taking that Italian course so after she is a lawyer she can take you on a tour of Tuscany, etc.
     
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