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SU-16CA: Rate as SHTF Weapon for a CA-man.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Kenshin, Oct 5, 2006.

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  1. Kenshin

    Kenshin Member

    Jun 29, 2004
    Bay Area, California
    This thread is not for comparison with other rifles as SHTF weapons, but for focusing on the SU-16CA alone.

    Based on factors like availability, ammo, durability, reliability, and so forth, give it a score out of 10.

  2. EvisceratorSrB

    EvisceratorSrB Member

    Aug 5, 2006
    Southern CA

    It's light, easy to use. If I'm not mistaken is it the variant that can fire in the folded position? If not, still a 9. Easy to fire. .223 is everywhere, great caliber plenty of stopping power within a house, or within 200 m. Great utility rifle! If i was stranded on an island with savages everywhere, the SU-16CA would be one of my top favorites! Obviously I can't give it a 10 because that means that it's the hands down best SHTF rifle, which I can't say so. Takes AR mags too. What else?

    Edit: Very reliable IMHO. It jams much less than my SKS. Even though it's made out of plastic, it seems better than average in durability. NOW am I missing anything else?
  3. Avizpls

    Avizpls Member

    May 15, 2006
    As a SHTF rifle, and not a combat rifle? 8.5

    Shy of a ten because...hang on, I'll get something.

    Here: Shy of a ten because...shoot, I lost it.

    Ok: Shy of a ten because it can not be used as a mele weapon itself

    Crud, Thats the duty of a combat weapon

  4. El Rojo

    El Rojo Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    The People's Republik of **********
    It is a horrible SHTF weapon because you can't find one anywhere! Freaking Kel-Tec, why aren't you making any of these things?
  5. Kevlarman

    Kevlarman Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Los Angeles / Kern County Border
    You're thinking of the SU-16C. The CA model cannot be fired while folded. :mad:
  6. Stiletto Null

    Stiletto Null Member

    Jan 3, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    CA has the sexy magazine-storage stock, though. (And firing an SU-16C like a pistol just seems silly.)

    If I were buying an SU-16, I'd get the CA. And I'll probably get one before I get an AR-15, simply due to cost.
  7. silverlance

    silverlance Member

    Jul 11, 2005
    In my Foxhole

    i bought mine for 530+15 transfer fee + 20 shipping + 20 tax + 15 CA DROS fee. so about 600 OTD.

    I spent an additional 45 for the tacticool handguard (just so in case i want it later since kel-tec doesn't seem to be too healthy right now), 35 for the levang compensator (shameless plug: i have another for sale, it's really good http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&item=180035388443&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1), 15 for the kel-tec sling, 15 for a metal sight tool, 6 for the tacticool sling stud, 8 bucks shipping.

    I already have a spare red dot sight and weapon light, and five colt 20 round grandfathered magazines as well.

    for about $700 total, the SU-16CA makes a VERY good shtf rifle since it's very light, accurate, and durable.

    it is unlikely that i will actually hang any of this crap other than the sling on the gun, but it is nice to know that if i want to i can.

    my SHTF gun ratings:

    SU-16CA-9.5 (10 would be a pistol grip)
    SKS paratrooper-8 (weight and less than idea sights even with williams installed)
    K-31 Swiss-6 (this is a very fine weapon and is quite formidable, but very heavy)
    Benelli M1S90-8 (rather light & it's a very fast and accurate shotgun, but not easy to reload quickly)
    Ruger 10/22-8 (light, accurate, cheap ammo that can be stored in major amounts, plenty dangerous enough with hollow points, 30rnd magazines, but it's no one shot stopper)

    a fire team of one of each of these would be uber tacticool :p
  8. Mauserguy

    Mauserguy Member

    Jan 13, 2005
    Orange County California
    Well, I don't have one myself, but I have seen many of them at the range, and I have talked to SU16-CA owners. They all love it.

    They have convinced me that it is a great all-around gun. It is sleek, reasonably accurate, and folds up well.

    My concern, though, with this rifle is that it is all plastic and alluminum. I really question it's durability outside of a controlled range. I would give it a low score if it wasn't collapsable. Since it folds, I will give it a 7.
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