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Suggestions on a compact 9mm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by PlayboyPenguin, Sep 22, 2006.

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  1. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin member

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    I am looking to purchase a compact pistol in either a 9mm or similar caliber as a winter carry pistol (I have my seecamp .32 for summer). Any suggestions as to what pistol and what carry configuration. Keep in mind I DO NOT like plastic guns. :)
     
  2. The Lone Haranguer

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    No plastic guns? Well, I guess we can try to work around that. ;)
    Kahr K9 or MK9
    SIG P239
    S&W 3913 or similar sized model
     
  3. Geronimo45

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    Kahr, or a CZ RAMI if you want 9mm. A USP compact might do - or a CZ 83/Bereretta 84 in .380. With them, you get a high-cap .380. Or a Bersa. Maybe even a pair of Bersas.
    Shoulder holster for 'em all - because it's probably the best all-around holster there is. An IWB isn't so good when you're seated, and an ankle is slow almost anytime. Shoulder holster has about the same draw time whether standing or seated.
    Yes, they require a cover garment. I happen to like wearing a coat - usually a leather jacket (since its buttons won't tear off).
    The Kahrs and RAMI might go into an ankle holster. I'm pretty sure any of them would be easy to carry IWB.
     
  4. 3rdpig

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    I felt the same way about plastic guns until I shot a Glock 26. Best carry pistol I've owned, and in 28 years of daily carry that's saying something.

    But if you insist on ignoring such a great carry pistol, consider the small S&W's, I carried a 3913 for several years before I got the Glock 26. Nice gun, light, flat, hides well, shoots straight and chambers anything.
     
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    CZ PO1 or PCR, best out there.
     
  6. No_Warning

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    Walther P99C ... oh no plastic guns? ....
     
  7. weregunner

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    Recommend the S&W 908 if the 3913 is pricey. Kahrs K9 or T9 would also work. SIG 239 is another good pick. Correct me if I'm wrong folks. The steel framed Kahrs seem to have better dependability than the polymer ones.Or less problems overall. Have shot the 3913 Ladysmith. If I buy a single stack that is what it will be. One thing to add. Winter guns may need to be shot with winter gloves to see if the trigger will reset for each shot. Material might get caught or pinched keeping the trigger form resetting.No such trouble with my Ruger P97.
     
  8. gunsmith

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    get a little glock

    in .40S&W...oh...you don't like plastic?

    Why 9mm anyway?

    why not a nifty sp101? they come in a variety of calibers...mine is .357
     
  9. PlayboyPenguin

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    Gunsmith,

    I have an SP101 in my truck. I just can't find a way to carry it that does not print and allows me to actually sit down or bend over with it on me. maybe I just haven't found the right holster. I have an exterior worn paddle holster for it.
     
  10. epijunkie67

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    I'll also recommend a Kahr. I personally use a PM9 and love it. The frame is polymer but the slide isn't and it's only 12 ounces unloaded. Hard to beat. They make nonplastic version also of course. It fits my hand better than almost any other gun I've ever shot. I use it as my summer carry gun since I usually move up to a .45 in the winter time.

    I can drop my PM9 into a smartcarry holster (like thunderwear) and forget it's there. Accessable when I'm sitting or standing without difficulty and I need no cover garment. Conceals equally well with long or short pants.

    If you don't want the size or price of a kahr I might suggest a Bursa also. Less costly and they also tend to fit the hand well.
     
  11. Don't Tread On Me

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    I really don't like Kahr. I've owned one, and I've had one break while shooting it at the range (was a rental).

    I don't like the idea of a pot-metal MIM slidestop pin. I dunno, I've been down that road - I simply am not convinced, not impressed and have no confidence in Kahr.

    I'd consider a plastic gun, like the small Glocks (not a fan of them, but they're proven to be tough and reliable unlike Kahr) or an HK P2000SK. There's also the Springfield XD compact. It's not too large. Don't forget the Beretta 9000S. It's a little fat, but another choice.

    For metal guns, Sig 239 is hard to beat. Great handguns. There's the CZ Rami. Seems pretty good, CZ has a great reputation and good build quality.

    If I had to choose out of all of these, I'd take the HK P2000SK. If I was forced to choose all-metal, the Sig 239.
     
  12. Juna

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    The best non-plastic Compact 9mm pistol, IMO, is the CZ 75D PCR. Alloy frame (light but strong), crazily accurate, reliable, fantastic ergonomics. Or, if you don't like the alloy frame & want steel, go for the CZ 75 Compact (all steel). You just can't beat a CZ in terms of bang for buck.
     
  13. Don't Tread On Me

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    The 75D PCR is bigger than the RAMI. Size does matter, the guy was concerned about printing and being able to sit with it. That the 75D is about the size of a USP Compact, smaller than full size, but NOT really a concealed carry gun.

    Of course, this all depends on how big of a frame your body has, the types of clothes you wear, your concealment style, and how cold it gets in winter. If huge coats are worn like in some parts of the north, you could practically conceal anything.
     
  14. Legionnaire

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    Sorry to hear about Don't Tread On Me's experience with Kahrs. I think their compacts make great carry guns. I had a K40, and it was a brick ... almost literally; built like one, and carried like one. Traded it on a P9, which is lighter and carries easier. No problems thus far. But since you don't like plastic, check out the K9 or MK9.
     
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    Just wondering if you have owned or fired any of the following pistols? With you not wanting to consider polymer framed pistols has made you exclude 3 of the finest subcompact combat pistol in recent years.

    Glock G26
    HK P2000SK (my current carry)
    Walther P99c

    I used to be a Sig Sauer snob (carried a P229 for the first 3 years that I CC'd) but I have seen the light. The above pistols shoot fast, carry light and are very accurate and reliable.
     
  16. skers69

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    I have a pcr I like. I also like the g26. Check our the Kahr.
     
  17. LanEvo`

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    That's your problem right there. Generally speaking, paddle holsters are more difficult to conceal than most other designs. If you prefer carrying outside the waistband, try a high-riding pancake holster. Something like these, for example:

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    If you're comforable with inside the waistband carry, then you have tons of other options.
     
  18. Citadel99

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    If you can wait a few months, I'd take a serious look at the S&W M&P compact. Will be released initially in 9 and 40.

    Mark
     
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    Rohrbaugh. It's metal, 9mm, and about the size of your Seecamp. It could serve you for year-round carry and replace the Seecamp.
     
  20. Black Majik

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    Take a look at the SIG P225. It's a single stack 9mm that is one hell of a shooter!

    Its the same size as a P228, just single stack.
     
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    SIGarms P-239 DAK with a CrimsonTrace lasergrip..

    If you do not want a sub compact 9mmNATO that has a plastic frame(why I don't know, :rolleyes: ) you may want to look into a SIGarms P-239 DA only(DAK type). This pistol has been around for several years and now has a CrimsonTrace lasergrip as an option.

    I think it fires 8/9 rounds and is small.

    www.crimsontrace.com www.sigarms.com www.gunsamerica.com

    All the best;

    Rusty ;)
     
  23. falling leaves

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    It doesn't look like anyone has mentioned a Hi-Power yet. 9mm, all steel, thin, comfortable..... FM makes a short slide version also which would help in concealment, though the finish isn't as pretty as the Browning/FN's. I've actually got one on order - I'll post my impressions when it gets here if anyone is interested.
     
  24. Oregongundude

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    It sounds like you would be more comfortable with a micro 1911

    Well if you don't like Plastic pistols, you need to look at some kimbers, or springfield compact 1911 either in the .45 acp, or 9mm.

    :)
     
  25. Chupacabra

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    This is a good suggestion. :D

    The Sig239 is also an excellent choice.
     
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