Suppressed coyote hunting.

[SamT1]

So I’ve never been much of a coyote hunter. More of a shoot them when I see them to protect livestock (and my quail pop). I have had a huge influx of them though and have had to run them away from cows calving. So I told some friends of mine who do competition hunts and they said let’s go. In 30 min they picked me up and we went and called and shot 3 within 10 minutes. I’m kinda hooked. Need to get me a tripod thing and find my call. (I bought an electric call 5-6 years ago and never used it.)

country is pretty thick on my place where the coyotes are. 100 yard shot is about it. I have a blackout and suppressor. (It does have a BDC scope on it) If I load subsonics for it is that quiet enough to keep the coyotes coming? Or should I just stick to trying to red mist them with a 308?

 

[BreechFace]

Subsonic 300 blk you are either going to have to head shot them or have a really good expanding bullet like a Lehigh or Maker Rex (and maybe the new Hornady Sub-X) I would think. Most subsonic bullets for 300 blk will just through and through. And coyotes are thin skinned.

Even just suppressed supers out of the 300 blk would be a benefit. As the coyotes wouldn’t aren’t able to locate the threat as well.

Just something to think about.

 

[mcb]

I have been trying hard to kill coyotes with my 300 BO subsonic setup for the past few years with no luck. But that has nothing to do with my 300 BO but my inability to call them. I get hawks, crows, and I even had an owl try to fly off with my decoy last hunt but no coyotes.

That said I have little doubt if I do my part my 300 BO subsonic load will kill coyotes just fine. I have killed about 10 armadillos with my 300 BO subsonic hunting load and it kills them pretty good. Not as authoritative as my 30 Reminting AR (almost 308 performance for an AR-15) or my 450 Bushmaster but it still kills them very dead. I am using Maker Rex 220gr bullets and they have performed very well for me.


Recovered from the chert 4-wheeler trail behind the last armadillo I killed. I have shot this bullet into a 12oz Gatorade bottle and the bullet had expanded before it left that bottle. They are not cheap bullets but they perform extremely well in my experience.


My 300BO on a very wet day last summer.

 

[SamT1]

Subsonic 300 blk you are either going to have to head shot them or have a really good expanding bullet like a Lehigh or Maker Rex (and maybe the new Hornady Sub-X) I would think. Most subsonic bullets for 300 blk will just through and through. And coyotes are thin skinned.

Even just suppressed supers out of the 300 blk would be a benefit. As the coyotes wouldn’t aren’t able to locate the threat as well.

Just something to think about.

I have a 200gr lead mold I would be using. In a 308 pushed about 2000 they kill hogs very well. I’ve not shot anything with them at slower speeds. I’d be more than willing to buy a hollow point mold if it works out to make a stand last longer.

 

[BreechFace]

I have a 200gr lead mold I would be using. In a 308 pushed about 2000 they kill hogs very well. I’ve not shot anything with them at slower speeds. I’d be more than willing to buy a hollow point mold if it works out to make a stand last longer.

Do you powder coat your bullets?

Just curious how your suppressor handles leading?

 

[SamT1]

Do you powder coat your bullets?

Just curious how your suppressor handles leading?

I have powder coated before. But I found it to be a crutch for load development and proper bullet size, lube, hardness. Powder coat is the dumbest thing a man can put down a barrel. (I know hundreds of people do it) I’ve shot a couple hundred gas checked moly lubed cast bullets through my suppressor and can’t see or hear any issues. I figure if it ever leads up I’ll just send to MFG to have it fixed.

 

[BreechFace]

I have powder coated before. But I found it to be a crutch for load development and proper bullet size, lube, hardness. Powder coat is the dumbest thing a man can put down a barrel. (I know hundreds of people do it) I’ve shot a couple hundred gas checked moly lubed cast bullets through my suppressor and can’t see or hear any issues. I figure if it ever leads up I’ll just send to MFG to have it fixed.

I’m curious with your strong opinion on PC bullets. I don’t have experience in doing so but it is quite common with lots of people doing it.

what’s been your experience that has led you to such strong opinions against it?

Would be good idea to weigh your suppressor and monitor its weight using your gas checked, moly lubed bullets to see how much lead is collecting.

I’ve held off using any lead through my suppressors but the idea of cheap cast bullets with molds for situations this post is about is appealing to me.

 

[SamT1]

I jumped on the band wagon of powder coat bullets when it first started. I already had powder coat equipment and had been casting a good while. I found zero Benefit in pistol bullets. I tried it in my 308 rifle and coated the grooves in the barrel with the powder. It was almost impossible to remove. It “powdered” the barrel at speeds I was successful shooting my alloy bullets with all but zero leading.

 

[mcb]

I love powder coated bullet, especially in pistols. I have put many thousands of rounds of coated lead bullets down range in USPSA competition and never an issue. Cheap like lead but clean like CMJ and plated. When you shoot a lot, keeping the lead down, from both handling during reloading and what is generate in shooting is a good thing. I have not use lead in my 300 BO yet but if I was, it would be powder coated to reduce leading in the suppressor. My suppressor is a welded can and cleaning it is going to be a challenge when it finally needs it and shooting jacketed will extended that time to needing cleaned. I use Barry's plated for cheap plinking subsonic ammo and the Maker REX for hunting.

 

[Barbaroja]

Double post

 

[Barbaroja]

I’ve had zero issues with powder coating being left In barrels. Prehaps the coating didn’t cure properly? Who knows.
If your going subsonic try and get some bullets designed to expand at that velocity or failing that a heavy for caliber bullet with a wide meplat.
If it was me I’d also try and aim to break some bones with the shot. The subs may not drop them in their tracks but they won’t get far with 2 broken shoulders and a hole through the chest, better yet aim for the head of possible.

 

[SamT1]

I’ve had zero issues with powder coating being left In barrels. Prehaps the coating didn’t cure properly? Who knows.
If your going subsonic try and get some bullets designed to expand at that velocity or failing that a heavy for caliber bullet with a wide meplat.
If it was me I’d also try and aim to break some bones with the shot. The subs may not drop them in their tracks but they won’t get far with 2 broken shoulders and a hole through the chest, better yet aim for the head of possible.

the ones that “powdered” the barrel were ones I was pushing Beyond Normal limits of cast bullets. However I had a lead bullet load I had been successfully loading the the same velocity with no leading. The time it takes to powder coat the bullets is a huge waste when I can make a non coated bullet do the same thing. I liked the thought of the coating letting me push jacketed velocity in a rifle and it simply didn’t work. It’s just a different form of lube that takes tons of time to apply. I didn’t have any trouble with it in pistols, but saw no gain.

 

[Barbaroja]

Can’t argue with doing what works best for your situation.
Although I would say since we’re talking subs, I have read that powder coating is a good way to reduce fowling that may collect in a suppressor when shooting cast Bullets

 

[FL-NC]

I have killed deer with Hornady sub-x 300 BLK. Its very quiet, but it is a lawn dart, and 100 yards is as far as I would use it. Not a problem since most of my shots at deer tend to be 50 yards or less where I hunt. I zero my 300 blk at 50 yards, but with that zero, I get about 7" of drop at 100 yards with subsonics.
You can use a camera tripod, attach a piece of wood platform to the top of it, and bunji a small sandbag to the wood.

 

[SamT1]

I have killed deer with Hornady sub-x 300 BLK. Its very quiet, but it is a lawn dart, and 100 yards is as far as I would use it. Not a problem since most of my shots at deer tend to be 50 yards or less where I hunt. I zero my 300 blk at 50 yards, but with that zero, I get about 7" of drop at 100 yards with subsonics.
You can use a camera tripod, attach a piece of wood platform to the top of it, and bunji a small sandbag to the wood.

I’m fixing to order a tripod. BOG death grip I think it’s called. I think it will be a game changer hunting hogs at night. Where we setup the other day was about 50 yards to the call. 125 is as long as it gets of a shot there. I have the Nikon 300blk scope. It had those bullet drops I can’t remember if they work for subs or not. But I can dial it too. It’s not important if the coyote runs away to die later. He just doesn’t need to live to tell his friends about me. Of course dead right there is more satisfying.

 

[horsey300]

I’m fixing to order a tripod. BOG death grip I think it’s called. I think it will be a game changer hunting hogs at night. Where we setup the other day was about 50 yards to the call. 125 is as long as it gets of a shot there. I have the Nikon 300blk scope. It had those bullet drops I can’t remember if they work for subs or not. But I can dial it too. It’s not important if the coyote runs away to die later. He just doesn’t need to live to tell his friends about me. Of course dead right there is more satisfying.

The death grip IS a solid choice for your intent, there's a level bubble on it, use it or you'll be off skew when you rotate. Hornady sub x 190 has been beckoning for quite awhile, I'd think it would work dandy for your yotes.

 

[jmorris]

If I load subsonics for it is that quiet enough to keep the coyotes coming?

Depends, I have shot more with 147 gn 9mm loads in my backyard (make less noise than my 300) once you hit the first one they others don’t stick around very long. The only time they don’t seem to mind me being in the same place as they are is if I am on a tractor.

 

[SamT1]

Depends, I have shot more with 147 gn 9mm loads in my backyard (make less noise than my 300) once you hit the first one they others don’t stick around very long. The only time they don’t seem to mind me being in the same place as they are is if I am on a tractor.

I have a carbine conversion thing that shoots 45 or 460 Rowland. Wish I had a suppressor for it.

 

[marksman13]

My experience is that once you shoot whether it be unsuppressed, supersonic suppressed or subsonic suppressed, the gig is up and coyotes are done coming in to that set. I’ve had a few exceptions where I shot one coyote and others just kept coming out of the woods, but those are rare instances. Coyotes are smart and extremely wary with great senses. A suppressor helps, but I wouldn’t compromise with subsonic bullets on the belief that coyotes won’t be able to hear them.

 

[GE-Mini-Gun]

Never hunted coyotes…with that said if have a question. I’ve seen videos of hogs been blown up with tannerite…granted the hogs can be baited in to a “pile” of something and you get 4 or more depending upon how much tannerite you use. Couldn’t the same technic be used on coyotes as well? My thought a deer carcass with the tannerite in it…couple gather around to eat…boom. Again never hunted either, just thinking out loud. Seems like you only get one shot then the rest UA the area.

 

[gotboostvr]

Never hunted coyotes…with that said if have a question. I’ve seen videos of hogs been blown up with tannerite…granted the hogs can be baited in to a “pile” of something and you get 4 or more depending upon how much tannerite you use. Couldn’t the same technic be used on coyotes as well? My thought a deer carcass with the tannerite in it…couple gather around to eat…boom. Again never hunted either, just thinking out loud. Seems like you only get one shot then the rest UA the area.

I heard tale of a taxidermist that kept his "spare parts" in a pile in his back field. He'd occasionally leave a lump of tannerite in there and wait till he had a pack of predators together before setting it off.

Apparently it was quite messy.

 

[GE-Mini-Gun]

I would think they would be more concerned about the end result - less coyotes, hogs, etc - but as mentioned never hunted them.