Suppressor dissassembly

[bkjeffrey]

Mine was registered under several different calibers similar to why or how some MG's need to be registered will the caliber listed on the form.

This post doesnt make sense to me at all. Help me out here, my brain may not be working right.

Wow...there's something I never considered! Would there be a significant reason to list anything other than the actual bore of the suppressor? Or the largest caliber intended to be used? (Considering that a .308" suppressor probably is built with a bore of more like .330" or some such?)

Uhhh..............Is there something I am missing here?

I thought as long as the suppressor would thread onto the barrel it could be used on any gun with a caliber of the size of the suppressor or smaller. If a .308 barrel was threaded to 1/2x28 and you had a .30 cal suppressor threaded the same, why couldnt you you use your .30 cal suppressor on a .223 AR with a 1/2x28 threaded barrel?

You guys are losing me here. I just wanna build a good suppressor for my AK, actually for my Draco AK pistol to bring my total barrel length to 16.5+ inches. (yes the suppressor will be permanatley attached).

 

[Sam1911]

On the Form 1 blank 4.c asks for "Caliber, gauge, or size." When registering an AR-15 receiver or T/C Contender receiver as a SBR, for example, you'll probably want to use several different barrels in different calibers or gauges. Used to be you could write in "multi." Now it seems they've decided not to accept anything but the actual numeric designation for a specific caliber -- so many folks are writing in every caliber they might use. (And, every barrel length, as well.)

The question is, a silencer is only a "firearm" because Title II of the NFA SAYS it is, and you can shoot any bullet through it that it smaller than the actual bore size of the can. So, do they really care that you put ".308" on the form if the bore is really .330" and you're going to shoot .308", 7mm, .260, .280, .257, .224, .204, .17, .14, and etc. through it?

 

[bkjeffrey]

So, do they really care that you put ".308" on the form if the bore is really .330" and you're going to shoot .308", 7mm, .260, .280, .257, .224, .204, .17, .14, and etc. through it?

I doubt they care, nor will they ever even know.

 

[Sam1911]

I doubt they care, nor will they ever even know.

I tend to agree with you, however the same argument may be made about those SBR rifles. Will they ever know or care that you registered your AR-15 SBR as a 10" barrel in 5.56mm but often shoot it with a 7" .50 Beowulf barrel?

I don't know and I don't know how to find out beyond all doubt. But a lot of folks aren't chancing it these days. [Shrugs ... ]

 

[bkjeffrey]

[Shrugs ... ]

...yea........ shrugs....

Anyway...Im still looking for info on building my AK suppressor.........Wheres RanB? He's hording all the knowlege.

I wanna know what he thinks of the monolithic baffle design.

 

[Ranb]

I do not think any silencer made is the same caliber as stated on the ATF form 1. They are all larger to allow the bullet to pass through without baffle strikes. I think the only way a person would get into any trouble is if they say for example that they are making a 30 caliber silencer, but the bore is less than .300" inches.

bkjeffrey,

I am just a hobbyist silencer builder; I have only made eight cans so far. I rate myself a 4 out of 10 in knowledge and skill as far as silencer making is concerned.

As far as monolithic cores are concerned; I think they are wasteful of volume and weight. While they appear to be very sturdy and durable, I think that they will not suppress as well as conical, step or K baffles. But I have no data to back this feeling up. As I live in WA where silencer use is banned, the opportunities to actually hear how well silencers perform is a rare occurrence for me.

Ranb

 

[bkjeffrey]

Awww jeez RanB, I thought you were the man! Just kidding.

Thanks for all the help on the Form One. I got it all filled out and am going to take it over to the local Calss III dealer tomorrow for a final review before trying to schedule a meeting with CLEO for final sigs.

Ill post on how that goes when it happens. After that I should have a few months to get all my designs worked out.

Hey RanB, I know you said that your AK suppressor "worked like crap" because it wouldnt cycle your subsonic reloads, but hows it sound with surplus?

 

[Ranb]

I meant that the rifle works like crap with subsonic. I have not used the silencer yet, so I do not know what it sounds like suppressed.

I leave for Vegas tomorrow and am bringing as many guns, silencers and cartridges as I can carry. Alaska Airlines limits a person to 50 pounds of ammo whereas most other airlines have a limit of 11 pounds on domestic flights. I am bringing all of my 7.62x39, 338rum, 30 carbine along with a few hundred rounds of 9mm and 22lr subsonic. About 25 pounds worth. The ticket counter has never put a gun case of mine of the scale, so I loaded it up with 60 pounds of guns/silencers. Worst scenario is that I end up paying the extra $50 for overweight luggage. That is if the TSA does not hassle me about the silencers again.

I will video the results, but I do not expect the video to be high enough quality to show a big difference between suppressed and unsuppressed fire.

Ranb