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Suppressor (silencer) recommendation?

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Sniper66, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. Sniper66

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    Just bought an AR 15 in .223 to be my dedicated coyote rifle. I included a muzzle break which works well to reduce barrel-flip, but makes it loud. I'm happy with everything about the rifle; it works as it was designed. Recently decided to buy suppressor for it and would like some recommendations from you guys out there. This will be my first suppressed rifle. I'll appreciate your thoughts and suggestions.
     
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    A quiet one

    Sorry no help we can't have them here.
     
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  3. MCMXI
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    I currently run an AAC M4-2000 on a 5.56mm machine gun but have suppressors from SilencerCo and Dead Air too. I would recommend one of the following for an AR15. The models below offer good performance and are friendly in terms of being easily configured for different mounting systems and calibers.

    SilencerCo Omega 300 with a 5.56mm end cap
    Dead Air Armament Nomad with a 5.56mm end cap
    Dead Air Armament SANDMAN-S with 5.56mm end cap
     
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  4. Varminterror

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    Silencerco and Thunderbeast are the two I can recommend.
     
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    I’ve got a Silencerco/SWR Specwar 556. I whole heartedly recommend it. Only thing I would change is I would have bought a .30 cal can initially for versatility. I’ve now got a couple of AAC 762SD-N6s and a Silencerco Harvester in .30 cal with a Thunderbeast Ultra 7 and Ultra 9 waiting on tax stamp approvals.
     
  6. taliv

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    Thunderbeast and delta p designs are the only ones I recommend anymore. I have 4 of them. I have 3 silencerco but the two omega cans I have are problematic. They sound great and are lightweight but the sleeves come loose and are poorly designed. I haven’t had any experience with dead air though.
     
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    For .223 I only have the M4-1000 and M4-2000. I use the 1000 the most.
     
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    I need to pay more attention to threats like this one.
    Currently, how long is the delay for approvals, if you don't mind to share with this old man.

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    One of my Omegas’ shells has came loose also. To be honest, I kinda prefer it, as I don’t have to worry about affecting the finish to run it in the ultrasonic cleaner.
     
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    Looks like about 275 days for an individual form 4. https://www.nfatracker.com/
     
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    my experience with YHM cans, is that they sound about as good as high dollar cans, but they fill them with bricks or something. the value you get is a trade off for weight.
     
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    I suppose it all depends on the intended use for the silencer. You want to move it around on a bunch of different rifles and you don’t intend to abuse it? Then medium-duty 30 caliber cans like a Dead Air Nomad, a SilenceCo Omega 30 or a Q Trash Panda are good options. You plan to shoot quickly on short barrels? Then a .30 caliber Dead Air Sandman is a great option, but it’s a heavier can. Do you plan to make this a dedicated can for your coyote rifle and are you not planning to shoot really quickly on short barrels? Than I’d recommend a Thunder Beast 5.56 can (I can’t remember the model names), they’re super quiet and very light, and Thunder Beast is known for their precision rifle cans, but they’re not as durable.
     
  14. MachIVshooter

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    Would also be my suggestion for your first rifle can, assuming that you have or will get hosts in other calibers up to .30. If you only want to suppress 5.56, Turbo T2 makes more sense and is a little less expensive.

    There are lots of other good cans out there, but you'd be hard pressed to find a better value. That said, Rex Silentium is also making some pretty nice tubeless critters at affordable prices.

    Of course, if you find the 10-12 month wait too off-putting, there's always the form 1 option. Won't really save you any money if you can't machine the parts yourself, but F1 approval times have been running 2-4 weeks in most cases. And I might just know of a way to end up with commercial suppressor quality & performance with a F1 build...........
     
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  15. Gtscotty

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    I'd recommend a .30 cal suppressor, they may be a slight bit larger than dedicated .223 cans, but give you a lot more flexibility for future host purchases and sound good. Light and short are worth a few dB. End of the world toughness is an overplayed marketing point for most people unless you are shooting tons of rounds through 5.56 SBRs or short barreled machineguns.

    In my opinion, getting something with the Omega mount thread is desirable because it gives you tons of QD, TOMB and direct thread mounting options. Current cans that fit the bill would be:

    Energetic Armament Vox S
    Dead Air Nomad 30 (my latest purchase)
    SiCo Omega 300
    YHM Resonator R2
    Rex Silentium MG7

    The Rugged Radiant and TBAC are also nicely laid out and featured, but you are stuck with their respective mounting systems.
     
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  16. MCMXI
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    I've got hundreds of rounds through my SilencerCo Omega 300 and Harvester cans and so far so good. You probably have thousands of rounds through yours so maybe I'm a ways out from having issues. I hope the sleeves don't loosen up on the 300, but if it does I'll send it back to SilencerCo to be repaired.

    I have three Dead Air cans including two SANDMAN-S and one SANDMAN-L. They're on the heavy side but they seem to be very robust and the QD system plain works. I just ordered two more of the -S because I got a killer deal on them since they're blemished. I don't need two more but what the heck, too good of a price to pass up.
     
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