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Sure could use some .36 schoolin'.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by BADUNAME30, Dec 18, 2012.

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  1. BADUNAME30

    BADUNAME30 Member

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    If i'm not mistaken Bluehawk, the Seneca parts, lock, triggers and rear sight, are the same size as the T/C Patriot pistol.
    For all intent and purpouse. You could cut down a Seneca Bbl to pistol length,add sights, dovetail under fer wedge, make ya a pistol stock, drill out for ramrod, install the Seneca fore end tip, install the Seneca lock and triggers and have a real sweet .36 cap lock pistol.

    Mmmmm...now that right there sounds real cool.
    A .36 front stuffer pistol with a hooked breech.

    That's all iffin ya was so inclined to canibalize a Seneca.
    'spect it'd be more cost effective to make up a .36 Bbl fer a T/C Patriot.;)

    EDIT: jist read on another forum that the Patriot once came in .36 configuration.

    Great, and jist when i thot i was done buyin soot makers fer a spell.
     
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  2. OrangePwrx9

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    Hi Jim,
    Been awhile since I've shot my Seneca, but I remember that it liked a .350 roundball with a .010" lubed patch and about 20 grains of Pyrodex P. In fact it shot fine with anywhere from 15 to 25 grains of P, often shooting all afternoon without needing a swabbing. More than that and it fouled quickly, became hard to load and delivered poor accuracy.

    IMHO, the loads listed in the TC manual are way too heavy for the rifle as was the .018" patch they listed. Not because the rifle can't take it, but because it turns shooting into a ramrod breaking chore.

    With 20 grains of P, the little rifle delivers better MV than a .22 rf which makes it about perfect for squirrels with all the accuracy you'd need. 25 grains of P brings MV up to .22rf magnum levels and is adequate for short range coyotes.

    As my Seneca aged a bit, I found .015 patches started working better and better. Guess I needed to shoot the newness out of it.
     
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    'preciate the info OP9.
    Fun easy comfortable shootin' is what i'm after with this little sweetie.
    I'll give yer suggestions a try jist soon as i round me up some balls and patches.
     
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    That's a pretty cool read d-a. I did get the original owners manual with this Seneca but your link is a far more in depth read.
    The rifle pictured on page 8, with the sights, is a Hawken.
    I wasn't saying that the sights on my Seneca were 'wrong'. It is just clear to me that the rear sight is indeed a Contender pistol sight and i just don't like the way the rear or front sights are made.I like the rear 'V' of the Hawken and the front bead of the Hawken. Both a far more accurate designe.
    Thanx for the link. I'm gonna probably print that one up.
     
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    Now Jim, I've got a stone burner in .32, (Pedersoli) naturally all I use is the original BP Goex 3f, and bore Butter on the patches, followed by a patch saturated in #13 BP solvent. It shoots a 1" group at 50 yds. Fortunately for me I've got 2#s of 4f for the pans on my other flinters. BTW I did get some English flints, and it did quicken the ignition time. :D
     
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    Now ya done it Noose.
    Got me on point fer a .32 :D
    I used to use #13 also but have since changed to bore butter for both seasonin' and patch lube.I keep my bores liberaly coated in butter and dry swab before i shoot. I get very good accuracy, a lot o' shots twixt cleanin and very east clean up with soap and water. I still keep the #13 on hand for when i want a field or range cleanin'.

    Just tonite i finaly found a source o' .350 rb's fer my Seneca.I'll be pickin those up tuesday evenin' along with some patches.
    I spose i'll ask 'im fer some .32 rb's while i'm there. Once i get the rb's i'll have no choice but to git me a rifle to go with 'em :cool:
    Glad ya like the difference o' the good 'stone'. If ya aint got one...git ya one them allen wrench type touch holes, use only a wee bit o' 4f next to the touch hole and you'll see another improvement in ignition time.
    What i do when i priime is to put jiiist 'nough 4f in there to slightly cover the very bottom o' the pan. I then 'tip' the gun to the left and allow the prime to fall into the touch hole. When the rifle is held level, jist enough powder falls back out o' the touch hole to give ya a real quick ignition.
    But, you probly knew this lol

    BTW, i still aint got Janet her Kentucky kit. They're still not in stock.:(
     
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    You might want to try Deer Creek Products, Waldron, Indiana
    (Tel: 765-525-6181).
    They're a large Traditions dealer and if they don't have something in stock, they can have it drop shipped to you direct from Traditions, usually at a lower price than Traditions charges the general public.
    They don't have a website but have all kinds of goodies and parts, even BP.
     
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    I got my Seneca about 20 years ago after some wheelin/dealin and the first thing that I did was to trash the "pistol sights" and make a set of my own.
    Home cast patched round ball (.013" patch) over 40 grs.of 3f, the rifle shoots great and it is a lot of fun.
    The rifle is a real hit at the off season stuff that goes on at our hunting camp.
     
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    Thanx Steve, i called 'em and unfortunately they too are out of stock.
    However, thier price is much better than even the Possibles Shop.
    I had them send me a catalog and perhaps Janet will see something else in thier that catches her interest.
     
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    Hi Zeke, thanx for the info.
    Right now my plan is to can the pistol sights and hopefully find me a set o' haken sights for it. My wife and i are quite anxious to shoot this thing.
    Everyone says the same thing....she's a real sweetheart to shoot.;)
     
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