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Survival Knife shown on a cable TV program

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by sleepyone, Apr 2, 2013.

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  1. sleepyone

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    I hope someone has seen this show. Can't remember the name or the channel. It is NOT Doomsday Preppers. It think it may have Ops in the name but not sure. It features three guys who each specialize in a category such as weapons training/survival/prepping. You can buy the weapons and gear seen on the show. They bring a guy on the show and evaluate his current skillset, provide some training and recommendations, etc. They go onsite to the guest's home, but they also bring him back to their shop to demonstrate stuff they make and recommend.

    Anyway, they had an episode where the guest was into knives and one of the hosts is a knife expert. He had this amazing survival knife that he highly recommended as the one to use if you could only have one knife. Anyone have a clue what this show is called and the network?
     
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    That right there is your First Clue that you have been watching way too many reality TV shows!

    I have no idea what show it was?
    Or what knife they were trying to sell?

    But if they stuck it in the camp fire while frying a snake?
    Or used it to dig a straddle trench in the sand & dirt.
    And then shaved with it??

    It was Reality TV BS at it's finest.

    That knife, or knife steel has not been invented yet!

    rc
     
  3. JShirley

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    With so little info about the knife OR the show, it's hard to say.
     
  4. Yankee John

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    I remember watching that episode too, but I can't remember the name of the program. It is on the same channel as Doomsday Preppers.

    I was interested in the knife too, but didn't catch it's name. The guy was using it as an axe, pulling nails out with it, etc..... Looked like a very useful tool.

    I'm such a failure.... :banghead:
     
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    HSO, it was not either of those. Just realized that is the show name you are referencing. Thought it was the knife name. Pretty sure that's the show!
     
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    Yankee John, that's the knive. Thanks! At least now I can search my channel guide. I'll recognize the name when I see it.
     
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    such a skeptic, RC! :D
     
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    Har Har !:barf:
    You could get 3 much better "survival Knives" for that price
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    or a really superb one for that price. But I guess one is born a minute!:banghead:
     
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    That is far too expensive for what is essentially a 420HC blade.
    http://www.metalravne.com/selector/steels/pk4ex.html

    Heck, even the "Hunter" model on their website with "high carbon spring steel" (which I hope is 5160) is too high at $100 less than the 420 Perry when you can pick up any number of other good knives for about half of even that.
     
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  12. JShirley

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    You'd do much better to get 3 knives that are each more specialized.

    A small task knife/skinner.~ $30-60.

    A larger blade- machete, quality kukuri, bolo, hatchet~ $15-120. (Tramontina machete, Granfors Bruks hatchet, Himalayan Imports 15-17" kuk, Ontario RTAK-2, etc)

    A medium sized knife for everything else.

    And you'd still be anywhere from $100-200 better off, and you'd actually have better tools.

    Heck, there are custom knife makers here that would make you a 2 or 3 knife set, with better steel, for that price. Or you could get one of Kim Breed's little knives for small tasks and daily carry, a Harvey King or T.A. Davison for medium chores, and one of the Camp Defenders Sam and I designed, for big stuff- and still only have spent a little more than the cost of that one silly knife. Seriously.

    John
     
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    I know nothing about survival knives, so that is why I was asking. I have several Kershaw pocket knives and my deer skinnin' kinives and that's it. I would never pay $325 for a single knife.
     
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    So John, you and Sam made a knife? Is that the same Sam who is a THR mod, Sam1911 I think?
     
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    Yes.

    And here is the problem. Think of the whole show as an infomercial.
     
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    sleepyone,

    The problem with trying to get a tool that will do multiple jobs, is that the tool won't be optimal for any of them. We are fortunate to have quite a few custom/handmade knife makers here on THR. Some of them:
    Name/ user name

    Kim Breed/ kim breed
    T.A. Davison/ T.A.DAVISON knife maker
    Stephan Fowler/ StephanFowler
    Harvey King/ harvjr
    Sam Owens/ Sam1911

    Please don't think that you have to have a handmade knife to do the job well, though. While you may be able to get a little more performance from a knife made by hand, you can get most of the performance from a factory knife made by Kabar, especially the Beckers, most of the Ontarios, etc. ESEE, Swamp Rat/ SYKO /Busse make excellent knives, but the prices are as much as you might pay for some knives made by hand.

    Hope this helps.

    John
     
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    There's a sucker born every minute.
     
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    Somewhere I realized that things advertised on TV tended to cost 30% than things not advertised on TV.

    Do a search on the main gun and knife websites and you will get opinions from real people on survival knives that really work. Even there, you have to sift through the hyper-consumerism and try to figure out which posters have really used the knife for enough time to know if it is good.

    Another new critter, or at least new to me, is the ``bushcraft knife``. From what I gather, they are promoted by an odd bunch of people who actually use knives, know how to sharpen them, and aren`t out to spend themselves into oblivion.
     
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    $325 for one blade? Maybe for a BBQ knife...


    I am thinking one of these.

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    And one of these kits

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    With the money you save you could likely also pickup a used lawn mower and chainsaw off of Craig's list too. That would cover all of your survival needs, blade wise.
     
  20. JShirley

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    AK, the way not to be a "sucker" is to seek the opinion of knowledgeable folks.
     
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    $325 for 420hc? Sorry to pile on but thats kinda a "suckers born everyday" type of knife and marketing

    If money is not a problem and you want an end of it all knife, spend your 300+ on a BUSSE. INFI steel is in a class of its own as far Edge retention+Ease of sharpening+toughness. Buts thats a whole other thread.

    So back on topic, theres lots of nice 420hc that are alot more affordable.
     
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  22. Elkins45

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    People who are really into knives eventually come to the realization that there is not such animal as a "survival knife." There are just knives, and the ones that would be most useful in a survival situation are the same ones that are useful in a normal situation. The western frontier was tamed with what were essentially cruder versions of a modern Old Hickory butcher knife. That was real survival.

    I have some knives with 4+ inch blades...I hardly ever use them. Your deer skinning knife is likely just as good a tool as the one you saw on that show.
     
  23. JShirley

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    Negative. It will be as good- and actually better- at some things. The whole point is that there are different preferred tools for different tasks. A 4" knife is just not going to cut a 6" hardwood log as well as a larger blade or axe. Similarly, a machete with a 16" blade won't be ideal for skinning a squirrel.

    John
     
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