SWAT: The Movie!

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i'll tell ya why they don't get training but get weapons. weapons stay around for years. officers get shot, go to different departments, or different divisions and if it cost a thousand bucks for a purty weapon and a thousand to send them for training, they'll take the weapon b/c it'll always be around, no turnover in weapons
 
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Law enforcement agents seem to complain a lot about catching flak from "civilians." It could just be a result of the way they do business... Kind of like how we voice objections when our political masters decide to pass a new piece of legislation that tramples all over our rights. Honestly, what do you expect?
 
You mean kinda like when one gun owner murders someone, how we all think that the rest of the gunowners shouldn't complain about being branded as bloodthirsty madmen, right? I mean, what do they expect, right?

Oh..wait...

Nevermind. :uhoh:

Mike
 
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but it's apples to oranges, as they say.

Murderers are private individuals that indeed are accountable for their actions. If other individuals get it in their head that anyone who owns a weapon is potential murderer, well, that is well within their rights. They can even preach it on the street corner if they so desire. They can remove all potentially dangerous objects from among their own personal possessions. What they can't do, legally at any rate, is force all others to do disarm as well.

Anything you do can and will influence others' opinion of yourself. That's a given.

The difference here is our politicians and law enforcement agencies are supposed to serve the public. There is now a substantial history that suggests that these public servants have not been executing their duties in a manner that is uniformly consistent with the interests of liberty. In a situation such as this it is logical that these institutions be evaluated and restructured in such a way to bring them back in line with the interests of freedom.

As far as any individual politician or law enforcement officer goes, I'm sure there are plenty who are perfectly decent on a personal level. That doesn't mean there isn't still a problem with the big picture. Law enforcement agencies are pretty much amoral. That can be good if your laws and lawmakers are moral and just. When the masters of your cops are crooked, when the cops are enforcing laws that are either unjust or just plain illegal, then dispassionate amorality can be a bad thing. If your job is to enforce or enact unjust/illegal laws then you are on the wrong side. It'd be like if I were the grand poobah of PETA(ethical treatment, not eating tasty) but worked in some kind of chainsaw-massacre-style slaughterhouse.

Who needs a revolution? I'm saying fix a broken system. Be that as it may, where's this supposed revolution going to come from anyway? The militia/patriot movement? ha! How about Joe Average just trying to quietly make his way in the world? Not likely. Nah, there is no pending revolution, not even if they sent BATmen to round up all our firearms tommorow. I have pretty much no desire to kill my fellow citizens in some civil war. But go ahead, let things continue to go the direction they're going. Take a look in two hundred years and see what's happened to our country. I doubt you'd recognize it, I doubt you'd want to live there. History has again and again shown us exactly what brings about oppression and revolution. Let's stop moving in that direction and spare ourselves the heartache.

Not that anything anyone says on a forum or in private discussion is going to effect any such change.

Anyway, I'm out. I've said what I had to say. You can return to your wildly humous and ridiculously implausible situation-based comedy that proves the essential correctness abusive policy and runaway authoritarianism.
 
yea they do have women there arent a lot of women but all swat teams to have women as an active role in swat:barf: :evil: :mad: :banghead: :cuss: :uhoh:
 
Skunk, I remember liking the original tv show as a kid. This movie might be fun to watch & enjoy some free a/c just don't go into it expecting any real plot. My guess is that the trailers have given away all the suspenseful parts :rolleyes:
 
Which one is your Kimber?

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It's the one that says baaad Series II on it.... :D
 

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I can remember my Grandmother telling me that in the "old" days everyone loved the police. They assigned a certain officer to a beat. He would know everyone by name. He would call her by name and ask her how her family was doing. She totally trusted him.

What a difference two generations make. You are lucky if you see a policemen who is not flying by your home, exceeding the speed limit or generally disregarding the laws he is sworn to uphold. People cannot trust or feel safe with a police department when they see, with their own eyes, the officers not obeying the rules as they should.

I hope this movie does not glorify SWAT TEAMS with the gang mentality. Using that four letter word with every breath they take. I really believe the police could be as great as they were, if only they had some real discipline and were taught how to speak with force without using cutter language. There are ways to be forceful without being crude.

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For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever.
 
Guys, this is thread was ment to be about the movie...
This is not an oportunity to draw your individual lines in the sand when it comes to police officers.

This thread is done.
 
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