Synthetic stock legal for SASS shotgun?

[armoredman]

There is a nice deal on Stoeger 12 ga coach guns at Palmetto, but they have black synthetic stocks. According to the rule book, since they don't deviate from the traditional pattern of the stock, i.e., no odd pistol grip shape, etc., I THINK that would be legal for SASS matches? Funds are, shall we say, low, and I could actually afford this one, for a first shotgun.
Anyone here know yes/no? Thank you for your replies.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/stoeger-coach-gun-s-x-s-12-ga-20-shotgun-black-synthetic-31676.html

 

[jmorris]

Synthetic stocks.

I am looking to buy a 410 shotgun for a buckerette. Just a starter gun for a small statue shooter. From what I read synthetic stocks are legal as long as they look original and dont have enhancements. Am I right in this before i spent the money?

forums.sassnet.com

 

[Robbins290]

Could always spray paint the stock brown and use a sharpie to make "grains" in the wood.

 

[armoredman]

@jmorris , thank you, I did a search there and didn't find that, must have been using the wrong parameters.

 

[Crunchy Frog]

There is a nice deal on Stoeger 12 ga coach guns at Palmetto, but they have black synthetic stocks. According to the rule book, since they don't deviate from the traditional pattern of the stock, i.e., no odd pistol grip shape, etc., I THINK that would be legal for SASS matches? Funds are, shall we say, low, and I could actually afford this one, for a first shotgun.
Anyone here know yes/no? Thank you for your replies.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/stoeger-coach-gun-s-x-s-12-ga-20-shotgun-black-synthetic-31676.html

That is a very good price and yes, it’s legal.

Most doubles are so stiff out of the box as to be all but unusable for competition use. It’s a pretty simple for an experienced cowboy gunsmith to smooth it up, but I’d recommend shooting it “stock” for a while to make sure it’s not a lemon. Once you do any “tuning” your warranty is toast.

 

[armoredman]

Thank you.

 

[armoredman]

On the way and I have a gunsmith buddy who is eager for the challenge. His skills are quite good - he created this fully functional .44 caliber boot pistol from left over junk.

And rebuilt this Bubba'd nightmare of mistakes,

Into this highly accurate work of art.

A lefty, for my left handed kid.

 

[Highland Lofts]

With the kids they generally over look a few things. It hard to get kids interested in shooting that much in a few hours.
Then the cost of firearms and ammunition.

 

[armoredman]

Well, Da Boy will be joining me at the range in a few hours where he will shoot both the lever action Marlin 357 and the 12 ga Stoeger double barrel.

 

[Highland Lofts]

My 13 year old grandson like the 1897 Winchester pump over a double barrel.
The last cowboy shoot he shot in was up in Custer Washington.
There was an older gentleman who was using an old beat up single shot -shotgun with the ejector.
The 357 Marlin lever action I bought will not hold ten rounds of 357 magnum, so he needs to use 38 special to get ten rounds in the tube.

 

[armoredman]

Yes, they only hold 9 of 357, and 10 of 38, which is why they are so popular in CAS, where you need 10 rounds on tap, and low recoil is the order of the day. Here is Da Boy just a few hours ago trying the Marlin for the first time - he's hooked. Loads were various cowboy 38 Spl loads.

He did not like my 1873 Birds Head too well - he doesn't like the grip shape.

Brought it out with the shotgun which had its own issues, but with birdshot it worked perfectly.

All in all, it was a great time, and while everyone else was fooling around with ARs and the like, we were ringing steel the old fashioned way.

 

[Highland Lofts]

It is nice to see new blood in the shooting sports. I load all of our metallic ammo and buy the 12 gauge from wally world.
Less then $50 for four boxes.
Alot of the guys here reload their shotgun ammo, but components are getting expensive and sometimes, not available locally.

 

[Bazoo]

Nice all the way around. That plastic stocked shotgun looks better than I thought it would.

 

[armoredman]

It does, doesn't it? $300 and change shipped from PSA. It works beautifully with birdshot, cowboy loads, but really, really doesn't like buckshot, have to beat it open. However, I bought it for CAS, so it is perfect, once it breaks in and flops open easy - it already shucks fired shells like a pro.
I agree on buying the shotgun ammo - I load everything ELSE I shoot except that, and a box of 25 of the Gun Club #8 stuff is $10 a CAL Ranch.

 

[Highland Lofts]

I we given a 12 gauge reloader but will probably never use it. Plus I'll be buying a bunch of reloading stuff from an estate when I get back to Washington State from deer hunting back here in New York State.
There is rifle, pistol and shotgun stuff there. I'll be selling 99% of the stuff. There is lots of powders, primers, shotgun shot, wads. Rifle $ pistol dies & bullets, presses.
As far as reloading shotgun shells for the cowboy shoots I'd rather spend the $11 a box then take the time to get a press set up and then the time to reload it.

You don't see much new blood at the cowboy shoots, any one new to these cowboy shoots are usually in their mid thirties or forties.

Young ones are the future of our sport, thank you for your time and expenses for him to participate.

Our next cowboy shoot will be on December 14th at the Marysville Gun Range, I fly back to Washington State on December 11th.
Always the second Sunday of the month.

Then the Custer Washington cowboy shoot is always the 4th sunday of the month. They do not host a shoot in December because it is so close to Christmas.

For the rifle and pistol ammo I use
federal 100 primers,
5.5 grains of Accurate #5
and 158 grain lead bullets I buy from a friend $30 for 500 bullets.
I have progressive presses, but prefer to land the cowboy ammo om a single stage press.

 

[armoredman]

There are a couple of shooters in my club in the low 30s, and a few in the 20s, but most are elderly indeed. I myself am no real spring chicken, 60 is right around the corner.
I love reloading and casting my own bullets, consider it a relaxing and productive hobby, so loading up enough 38s for a month of practice and match shooting isn't really a problem, and that's with a 43 year old RCBS single stage press. However, I only have the one shotgun, so I doubt I'll buy the gear for it - I had shotguns in the past and they really don't do much for me. My load right now for .38 is AA#2 under a 125gr Lee RNFP I cast myself and powdercoat.

 

[Detritus]

When did Stoeger add a synthetic stock to their line?

the black stocks used to be the same wood as the brown ones, just with Opaque black stain/paint instead.

as in I knew two different guys back in the day that had black stocked coach guns that when they pulled the "plastic" stock off (for two separate reasons * ) , got a surprise in that the buttstock and fore end were decently dense wood under a plastic looking black topcoat.

* first guy was taking the stock off to give it a custom paint job, the second was detail stripping the gun in preparation to follow the "Race tune" directions from SASSnet (i.e. remove/trim the pushrod that re-engages the safety when you open the action, and lap the moving mating surfaces between the receiver and barrel assembly)

 

[Highland Lofts]

I was buying scrap lead, melting it down and cleaning all of the inferior stuff out of the lead and poured it in to cupcake tins.
I processed around three tons of lead. I used propane and a five quart cast iron Dutch oven. I probably have four maybe five hundred pounds left.

I bought three different lead pots and a bunch of molds but never cast any bullets, I might give it a try this spring.
I do need to make a wood stove for melting lead instead of using propane.
Once I make a woof fired lead melting stove I'll start buying more scrap lead.
I have a good free supply of wood so it would cut the cost of melting the scrap lead.

 

[armoredman]

When did Stoeger add a synthetic stock to their line?

the black stocks used to be the same wood as the brown ones, just with Opaque black stain/paint instead.

as in I knew two different guys back in the day that had black stocked coach guns that when they pulled the "plastic" stock off (for two separate reasons * ) , got a surprise in that the buttstock and fore end were decently dense wood under a plastic looking black topcoat.

* first guy was taking the stock off to give it a custom paint job, the second was detail stripping the gun in preparation to follow the "Race tune" directions from SASSnet (i.e. remove/trim the pushrod that re-engages the safety when you open the action, and lap the moving mating surfaces between the receiver and barrel assembly)

It's synthetic. I have no idea when, as even the Stoeger website doesn't mention it. But it is not wood, unfortunately. It's also out of stock.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/stoeger-coach-gun-s-x-s-12-ga-20-shotgun-black-synthetic-31676.html

 

[Detritus]

As I stated in the more general thread, the thought hit me that it maybe a "Double Defense" without the rails.