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  1. Triplanetary

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  2. fpgt72

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    There are mounts that will go right where the rear site is located and you don't have to destroy a rifle in the process.

    If you have your heart set on destroying the history of a rifle, then you can do whatever you would like.

    Photos like this should go to show that this rifle is a very good bit of kit. Still being used over 100years after it first showed up in the hands of soldiers. Why people would want to "build up" one is past me....and yes I know your rifle do what you want....Just wanted to make you aware of that other mount for a scope and get on the soap box a little. :p
     
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    It almost looks like a side mount, made to go on a PU side rail perhaps.
     
  4. wgaynor

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    Looks like a good cheek weld is impossible
     
  5. USSR

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    Nah, just duct tape a pillow to the stock and you will be fine.:rolleyes:

    Don
     
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    Not only the cheek weld, but the 5" between scope and barrel axes....
     
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    Looks like something welded to the magazine coming up around the side. Quick field alteration. There are going to be way better options out there...like the one the Russians actually used in WWII. This fellow had a scope, a Mosin and a welding torch and did what it took presumably.
     
  8. Triplanetary

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    I have a stripped barreled reciever and a plain receiver that were for sale already undone. I wouldn't sully the history of anything original except to desporterize a gun.
     
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    There are a lot of repro 91/30 snipers with PU scopes out there. If you're building one up you could just rig it to the original configuration pretty easily. I think Kalinka has the mounts and scopes.
     
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    Funny fact about that pic, without your head even touching the stock, the person would likely be more accurate using the irons instead.
     
  11. Triplanetary

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    After a better look, I am thinking that may not even be a weapon, this guy might be observing. A rifle or broomstick is better than a tripod in those conditions to hold a monocular, but as a sniper this guy would be in an extremely exposed position.
     
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    I'm sure it's been posed by the cameraman. There's a PR war waging, after all. But I can see someone welding a scope on some old 91/30 for an ad hoc sniper rifle. Lord knows if it was even sighted in.
     
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    Being a Nagant, I was expecting a revolver. :rolleyes::neener:
     
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    Good trigger discipline, at least.
     
  15. spystyle

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    I'd say that is a 91/30 Mosin Nagant with a PSL (Dragunov) type side mounted scope.

    It's completely wrong for that gun. That photo is ridiculous :)

    The 91/30 has a long eye relief scope mount in the form of a dovetail under the rear sight, integral to the barrel.

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    Otherwise I'd scope a 91/30 with the ATI mount, this requires a bent bolt.

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    I'd consider a new stock as well. See the difference in cheek weld :

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    The original stock doesn't really lend it self well to scopes.

    Also, check this out :

    http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=7786&cat=1223

    Boyd's stocks are purdy :)

    Craig from Maine :)
     
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  16. fpgt72

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    I have one of each....I shoot the repro. I am just a little afraid to put the 90yr old optics to those kind of shocks. So when I want to play enemy at the gates the repro comes out. I know many that do shoot originals with no problem but for me it is just a why risk it....I will admit I have shot it but with some reduced hand loads.

    To the OP, I am glad...If you read many of my posts I am a bit of a "stay away bubba" kind of person.....now if you think I am being a hypocrite...with the repro...it was an ex sniper....all I did was put a new production mount and scope on it....no damage done.
     
  17. Triplanetary

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    I should say that sporterizing a gun is an American tradition and in line line with our use it up, wear it out , fix it ethos that underpinned the pioneer lifestyle. I build stuff up from parts because I can get the parts and I desporterize because it's a DIY choice. The fact thet we are intersted in these things and have prefernces in approach is the cool part. Good examples may become rare but they won't go away, just go up in price. The basic respect for the history and learning overall amoung us gentlefolk is what give all of you esteem in my eyes.

    And an on topic question: Is this guy a sniper ? and would that rifle hold up to serious use ? I still can't get over how strange it looks.
     
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    Depends on your definition, but taking pot shots from a concealed position meets mine, others might say he's not a "real sniper" because his position wouldn't stand up to five minutes of the enemy looking for him after the shot.

    But in their situation one shot, one kill, shoot and scoot to fix the scope before the mortars or sarin comes their way might work.

    I wish the photo quality was better, to me it looks like a PU mount with the scope removed and "normal" rings somehow mounted. It appears to have a bent bolt so its not totally ad-hoc.
     
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    As a historian and someone who worked in a the museum field, which entailed preserving artifacts and documents, all I have to add is this; Not everything that is old is a piece of history. Especially when there are 20 million of them.
     
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    Excellent observation.
     
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