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Tactical fuzzy dice to hang on your AR15?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Owen Sparks, Sep 9, 2008.

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  1. Owen Sparks

    Owen Sparks member

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    It is trendy now days to accessories your AR15 with as much "tactical" stuff as you can find a way to attach. Lights, lasers, slings, mag clamps, silencers, loudners, custom grips, and that all important Desert Camo paint job for those who live in Michigan.

    How much of that stuff is really necessary?

    Do you really want your rifle to look like a pimps Cadallac?

    Just curious, OS
     
  2. Emfuser

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    Whatever other people want to do with their AR is their business, IMO. Do some people go overboard, buying accessories to make their weapon "tacticool" when they will likely never even become proficient with them, let alone use them? Absolutely.

    For what it's worth. I built my AR to be basic. Regular hand guards, no extra rails, iron sights, standard 6-position stock. I'm not adding anything else until I'm reasonably proficient with that setup and reach a point where buying a reflex sight or other accessory will yield me something other than cool points on barfcom.
     
  3. Owen Sparks

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    It seems like the "swiss army knife" approach turns a light handy carbine into something cumbersom and poorly balanced but it would make a good boat anchor though.
     
  4. El Tejon

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    The threshold question is always this: does adding this __________ to my carbine solve a problem?

    If the answer is yes, do it. If not, don't do it.

    Just because it is in the catalogue does not mean you should put it on your weapon.
     
  5. HorseSoldier

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    Most of the tacticool stuff out there has practical value if you're really using your carbine for intensive combat marksmanship training, or whatever other application that particular widget or gadget brings to the table (though some of it is simply mall ninja silliness and junk).

    The same bit o' kit bought simply because "everyone knows the Navy SEALs use X,Y, or Z" and then put on a rifle that's never going to be used for anything but slow aimed fire at a range that only allows people to shoot from benchrests or something is, obviously, less reasonable a use of resources.
     
  6. auschip

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    Just because something isn't necessary, doesn't mean it isn't useful. I don't need a light, but I find it useful. I don't need a vertical foregrip, but I find them useful.

    Of course, I recently finished my Dreamsicle AR, and it doesn't have any rails or lights, but it does have an Aimpoint (which I will be switching out shortly). Something tells me it would still go against the spirit of this thread. :neener:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Owen Sparks

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    If for some reason my shotgun is out of reach and I had to use my rifle for home defence, I would want the ability to attatch a light. I suppose a small piece of rail attatched to the bottom of the standard handguard would be all I need.
     
  8. ny32182

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    Sounds like tactical fuzzy dice! :eek:
     
  9. Bartkowski

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    To answer the question, no of it is necessary. You don't even need an AR, but if you want to put stuff on your rifle go ahead.
     
  10. RockyMtnTactical

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    I don't think it is as big of a trend as many believe.

    For me, a quality sling and a quality optic are the two best upgrades one can have.

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    That said, there ain't nothing wrong with an AR15 that is tricked out with a bunch of other upgrades and accessories. I just like to only have what is needed and keep the weight of the rifle down.
     
  11. waterhouse

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    Some things are useful, and some things are useful some of the time. These things can be added to the gun, increasing weight, or taken off if not necessary at a particular time. My carbine rarely wears a light to the range, but almost always wears one at the house.

    I like the way Mr. Roberts said it, so I'll just link his thread, complete with pictures:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=284477&highlight=ops
     
  12. highorder

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    A good sling is a must for anyone that isn't setting their rifle down on the bench between strings of fire.

    YMMV.
     
  13. ranger335v

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    "tactical fuzzy dice"

    They may serve well if you need to cruise around the 'hood unnoticed. Just to help you blend, you know?
     
  14. rob_s

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    I can't help but wonder why you care?
     
  15. Owen

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    I have a 3 point sling (a rifle without a sling is like shoes without laces), an EOTech (Fast is good, and yes, I've checked), BUIS (EOtechs can break) and a forward pistol grip (the mag well can get hot) with a light (to see in the dark).

    So what's extra?

    More importantly, why do you care what other people do to their guns?
     
  16. rob_s

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    Yay, useless crap!

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  17. Claude Clay

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    "smile-wait for the flash" should be the last thing a bg sees.
    thats decoration enough. ( i still think it was photo-shopped)
     
  18. rob_s

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    I was thinking, maybe.... chrome rims?

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  19. strat81

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    Stuff I have bought for my AR:
    1) Flip up front and rear sights
    2) Aimpoint optic and mount
    3) Sling
    4) Magpul CTR

    1 is necessary to use the rifle, especially if the Aimpoint dies.

    2 is very, VERY nice to have since it allows me to acquire my target more quickly and place follow-up shots mroe quickly.

    3 can help with accuracy, weapon retention, and carrying, i.e., it is quite practical and weighs almost nothing.

    4 I chose over a standard M4 stock because of the better lockup (it's not wobbly). I'm short and A1 and A2 stocks are too long for me to use comfortably.

    A laser? Eh... I think a quality red dot optic like an Aimpoint works just as well and provides the same effect. Light? If I kept my AR next to the bed, I'd definitely have one (wife says no rifles in the bedroom). I probably should get one in case I ever need to bug out (unlikely, but the stuff is cheap enough). Rails can improve accuracy (if free floated) and provide excellent mounting points for lights, slings, and VFGs. The VFG is a nice, ergonomic addition.

    IMO, if the rifle will ever be used in low-light situations tritium sights or an Aimpoint are almost necessary, as is a light. I have trouble seeing my front sight when it hits dusk, forget about in low- or no-light situations. Sight alignment is important.

    As for desert camo, I consider them no different than a yellow paint job on a car or red on a truck. All black rifles all the time can get boring. My wife's AR wears pink furniture.

    For the weight issue, if you have the $$$, you can build an AR with all kinds of lightweight stuff and still have optics and such. Pencil barrels, Aimpoint Micros, carbon fiber float tubes, and Cavalry Arms lowers help make this possible.




    ETA: rob_s, how is that light mounted in the second pic? That is a great looking rifle. How does she shoot?
     
  20. SimpleIsGood229

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    I'm obviously not Rob, but I'll bet he bolted a short piece of rail to the handguards. The Surefire X300 he has on it is a pistol light, so it attaches right to the rail.
     
  21. AmishFury

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    the tacticool thing does draw in the mall ninjas and the video game crowd (just look at how the more popular custom M4 replacements for counterstrike: source have a bunch of extra crap on the model)

    but i've personally seen more practical AR-15 setups at the range than tacticool setups

    when i get around to building my AR-15 i'm going the exact opposite of tacticool... i'll be going for a vietnam style configuration
     
  22. Brother in Arms

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    My AR is pretty untacticool. Currently the only thing that is attached to it is an M1 sling and if im feeling saucy perhaps the bayonet.

    the rifle currently has an M16A1 upper, all Rock River internals, Essential arms lower, A1 pistol grip,M4 collapsable stock, M16A2 round hand guard, M16 3 prong flash hider.

    pretty un-tacticool I know....I am going to buy P-mags for it though and sell off my G.I. Aluminum mags. the P-mags are much sturdier.

    Brother in Arms
     
  23. Roadwild17

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    From What I understand, lately threes been a reinsurance of the retro stlye ARs.

    My AR is used for HD and is my bed side gun, thus is has a VFG and will soon have a light. It has a sling just because the range I shoot at has cement benches and I dont want to put it down. Im sure Im going to love it once I get around to taking some carbine classes.
     
  24. ColinthePilot

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    Mine is going to be a continuing project, or more likely, a family of projects. For my first, I'm looking at what I need and can afford. I'm not a ground troop or a cop, so I don't need a lot of combat gear. It won't likely be an HD weapon, so lights and optics are probably unnecessary for now. What I do need is plenty of hi-cap mags for the range, some good irons, and I'll buy the rest as I find a need.

    And I've had the tactical fuzzy dice, but they were in my car. They were black with tactical night dots on them.
     
  25. .38 Special

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    Clint Smith wrote something about finding, at his school, an inverse relationship between the skill of the student and the number of useless widgets attached to his gun.

    For whatever that's worth. :neener:
     
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