Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Foxtrot427, May 10, 2006.
Im looking to do something that looks like this.
Vltor also has a stock. Not as fancy, but lighter, and not as expensive.
There are no cheap M14 type rifles out there anymore, unless you happen to come across a good deal on a used one. I've been looking for a project gun for awhile.
here ya go:
Now, I know thats a Canadian website, so you can't exactly order it from there (at least, I don't think you can), but it at least shows you they are out there.
I can only assume you're not familiar with M14 derivative rifles since you're asking about price.
You're looking at anywhere from a low (if you're very lucky) of $700 for a used Polytech or Norinco, don't buy the Norinco if you can get a Polytech, to upwards of $1,200+ for Springfield or some of the other U.S. manufactured complete guns. You might get out with the same price of a Springfield if you buy a reciever and have the gun built from parts.
If you get a used Polytech you'll want a GI bolt and bolt carrier to put in. If you're lucky ,again, you'll spend $125 for that. Now with a nice used Polytech that isn't shot out with a GI bolt you'll have $825 in to it.
Now for the Buck Rogers hardware. Figure on another $500-$800 for the swoopy stock. Add a couple more hunderd for the rail forend and your pushing $1500 - $2,200 to get gun in the picture.
Of course you could just buy it for $2800 from Fulton Armory.
I've been shooting these rifles a long time and have found that a bone stock rifle with GI fiberglass stock will do just fine. Recently I tried experimenting with some new "gee whiz" stuff like an Aimpoint mounted on a Knight's RAS. I didn't like it, and found that I could shoot more accurately with the iron sights. I've since sold the RAS and I'm going back to a traditional handguard and iron sights. I can't think of any other rifle where the KISS principle applies more than the M14.
Speaking of stocks, for the record here is another good one:
Another vote for the synthetic stock for the M1A
I have a Fulton version of the M1A with the wood stock which I like tremendously. You can buy several (slightly) used synthetic stocks, paint them different camo colors to suit your mood, and do little else and still have a great rifle. I may even paint one hot pink or lavender just to keep up with those stylin' AR's I see at the range...
The Sage stock looks good but not on my budget; the wood stock does just fine for my needs. I suspect that the adjustable feature of the Sage is very compatible with the body armor our guys wear in Iraq so the the stock has a place for them.
If there is a problem with irons it is in target identification and definition at 150 yards plus. Sort of a nonissue. Most combat is a lot closer than that, so I question the need to hang a bunch of stuff on an otherwise decent handling rifle.
Better to spend the bucks on training and ammo.
I wonder how much it weighs?
Would somebody please tell me...
Where exactly is the bolt carrier is on my M14NM? I've been looking all over hell and high water looking for a bolt carrier on my gun. I've got a bolt, and an oprod...
Most of the Norinco/Polytech M14SA guns with the dreaded soft bolts had both their bolts and barrels replaced, since a USGI bolt seldom headspaced properly with the original Chinese barrels.
So one can't make major power factor in USPSA with a standard USGI stock?
Good call. Christmas trees notwithstanding, the definition of "tactical" has become a long and slippery slope. I fear my own M14NM is no longer tactical, since it's neither SAGE-stocked, nor does it use batteries in the optics. Real POS, it's really only good for hitting man-sized targets out to 800+ yards. Poor pitiful me, guess I should sell it, 'cuz it just ain't the shiznat...
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