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Taking a gun to work?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by s9601694, Jan 3, 2013.

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  1. s9601694

    s9601694 Member

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    I am struggling with getting my EDC routine right on work days. My place of work doesn't allow fire arms and so I am left to leaving it in my truck. I've walked around all day with my concealed holster but that seems silly.

    How do you guys do it? What is your routine?

    Thanks!


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  2. Deus Machina

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    Buy a holster with a clip instead of loops, or swap them out if you can. Then you can take it off.
    Me, unless I plan on going anywhere but work that day, I just drop the .38 in my pocket.
     
  3. Taurus 617 CCW

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    I keep a Ruger LCP in my holster jacket and nobody knows any different. It's so small and light, I forget it's there.
     
  4. lemaymiami

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    In my view this is one of those "render unto Caesar" propositions. Don't risk your job by carrying where it's prohibited. Do have a secure place to store your weapon in your vehicle (and that's where the sidearm goes when you're enroute to work so you're never in the position of disarming in the workplace parking area...). Yes, it's handy to have a holster that allows you to remove sidearm and holster easily in those kind of situations.

    When I was a cop we were always required to remove our weapons if dealing with any prisoners, or in secure facilities (feds don't allow locals to carry on their premises -at least down here in south Florida) and we were never allowed to carry into any courthouse... The real problem you face is proper security for a firearm in your vehicle. I'd pay some attention to that...

    Hope this helps
     
  5. d-dogg

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    Never given it much thought since it would be a felony to carry with or without a permit or even bring a gun "on-site" at pretty much any of the places I have worked for the last 32 years.

    Even in the vehicle it would have been illegal.

    Check the policies of your work place first.
     
  6. Glockedout17

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    Well, my job is food delivery and we all know that delivery guys are always prone to being robbed, so I definitely carry on the job. I carry my Glock 19 in a hybrid holster, but I will be getting a pocket pistol for the spring and summer mths coming up.
     
  7. Nasty

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    Anyplace that denies carry by responsible licensed folks might just as well hang a sign that reads "Soft Target Area".

    BTW...your truck does not need to be armed, *you* do.
     
  8. Guillermo

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    In my state it is not illegal for concealed carry licensees to carry at work (unless they follow certain rules for making it so, specifically a 30.06 sign)

    When I worked for other people I carried. Didn't pay much attention to the "rules" of the company.

    Once the owner and I were talking and the subject of guns in the workplace came up. I told him that he probably didn't want my opinion. He grinned and said "I think I know, but it is best left unspoken".
     
  9. pockets

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    Yep......this.
    One does not actually need a pistol to be 'armed' at work, within the company policies.
    Although I may not agree with all their silly rules, I'm not about to throw away 31 years of very good employment at a very good company.
    Especially since I already agreed to their policies way back in 1982.

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    Well, I’ll forgo the discussion on compliance and integrity and just (cautiously) offer a suggestion on how to keep from getting caught. This will work also for places that may allow carry but you prefer they not know. If you don’t need it immediately on your person while you’re working do the following:

    >Go to the Post Office and pick up a handful of the free express mail boxes, the smallest size that will fit your gun.
    >Find some foam and cut it to fit inside the box once the box is assembled.
    >Put your unloaded gun in the box and seal it up.
    >Write some address on it. Use your imagination- it should be going to somewhere that accounts for the weight of the box.
    >Put the box in your briefcase or backpack- whatever you use to carry your stuff back and forth.
    >Remember not to actually mail it. Lock it in your desk or locker when it will be out of your sight.

    If you ever need it, it’s just a quick zip-pull away. If your employer should suddenly out of the blue decide to search everyone’s belongings, it just looks like you’re going to mail a package after work. They cannot open your mail.
     
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    Not true at all. Try bringing a gun even into the parking lot of a power plant, especially a nuclear one, and watch your gun rights disappear in an instant. As for soft target area, the ones around here have guards armed with toys most of us cannot legally acquire
     
  12. s9601694

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    Thanks for the insights and suggestions all.

    For me: I do not intend to break company policy and jeopardize my position and reputation at my company. Therefore i will not break company policies i signed off on, whatever they apply to. I'm not sure if it is a policy at our company, but the only rule i would break is having a gun in my truck. I believe that truck is my private territory (like my house) and i have the right to keep a gun in there. I don't know the law well enough but that seems reasonable (?!). (I understand the nuclear powerplant policies!).. Slightly off topic: if i drop my daughter off at school and drive onto the school parking lot, while armed, and i do not leave my truck, am i breaking the law??
     
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    My company's policy (i am showing only the relevant sections):

    (...)Such behaviors may include, but are not limited to:

    • (...)
    • Use of weapons, and/or carrying weapons onto Company property.

    (...)

    The Company reserves the right to conduct searches and inspections of any employee or Company-managed property without notice. If you refuse to submit to a search, you may be subject to disciplinary action up to and including termination.


    So this does not include MY vehicle is how I read it.. Any opinions?

    Thanks!
     
  14. pendennis

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    When the company says firearms may not be brought onto their property, you can probably safely assume that they mean the parking lot(s) also, since parking lots usually belong to the company, or they've leased the space.

    You may want to get your management to further refine the definition of the restrictions, but I wouldn't get caught bringing a gun to a company with those caveats. I'm sure they've probably had an attorney research this.

    The company from which I retired five years ago, had a similar policy. By bringing your vehicle onto their property, you ceded any privacy rights you had before entering.
     
  15. s9601694

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    Thanks, I'll ask HR to clarify
     
  16. Slipknot_Slim

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    In my state, the situation you describe with your daughter, would not be illegal for a permit holder.
     
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    Which state is that? Here in Colorado you dont need a permit to have a gun with you in your car
     
  18. Slipknot_Slim

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    You don't need a permit to have a gun in a car in my state either....as long as there is no ammunition in it.
     
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    Not sure about your state, but in mine (Idaho) your vehicle is an extension of your home. If your vehicle is on company property, your employer still cannot regulate what you have in it. That would legally be the same as them telling you that you cannot store certain things in your home.

    I work at a state university that is fond of telling everyone that their policies extend to vehicles as well as university property (even though that is not true). Its not illegal for them to stretch the truth, but they do it all the time.
     
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    Right, and the same goes for Colorado i think. I will have to re-educate myself on that topic to be sure.
     
  21. Slipknot_Slim

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    Obviously laws vary from state to state. It's good to know the laws in your particular state and any that you plan on visiting.
     
  22. squid841

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    holster in the workplace

    That's just what I do here in Indiana. I use a Old Faithful tuckable holster for my Beretta M9A1. When I get to work, I just lock it in the car. If your holster fits you correctly, You shouldn't even notice the empty holster most of the time.
     
  23. BTNut

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    My company has a "no guns" policy, but I started working here before the policy. My life is worth more to me than my job, so I choose to ignore their policy.

    It's kind of ironic that when I started working here, it was a privately owned company, and I valued my job very much, as it was a very good company. They didn't have a "no guns" policy then. A few years ago the company was bought out, and has since become just an "okay" place to work, along with becoming "no guns". I figure they will most likely never find out I carry at work, unless I need to use it at work, in which case I will have bigger concerns than losing my job. In the unlikely event they did somehow find out by way of some accident of my own, meh, whatever, I can easily find another job for another company at least as good or better than this one. My profession has no shortage of jobs, and to me a job is just a job.

    I guess I look at it the same as carrying every day everywhere else. Sure there are risks and inconveniences, but they are far outweighed by the risks incurred by not having it if I should actually ever need it.
     
  24. MedWheeler

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    I work in EMS, which is a "no-carry" profession. Off the job, I carry my sidearm in a belt-slide holster worn outside-the-waistband, and covered. On my work days, I simply carry a smaller gun (Kel-Tec P32) in my pocket while traveling to and from, then stow it during the work day.
    My work days are so long that it is not common for me to go anywhere else after work without going home first.

    Oh, and I do have a second job in pizza delivery, like poster #6 does, and I do carry there; one on me, and one in my truck.
     
  25. MyGreenGuns

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    One of my old jobs updated their policy to say no guns on company property, even in your vehicle. I think they were surprised when so many of us started parking across the street.

    EDIT: I dont know if it is legal to ban me from having a gun in my truck on their property. But I was assuming this would be a long-time job and didnt want to make waves.
     
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