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taking a new girl shooting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Stauble, Oct 6, 2006.

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  1. Stauble

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    some time this week i will be taking a friend of mine shooting. she just turned 18 and told me that she'd like to learn to shoot and asked if i could teach her, so being the kind soul that i am i agreed. my deliema is what guns to teach her on

    henry .22 lever action
    ruger single six
    S&W .38
    yugo SKS
    WASR AK-47
    Mosin Nagant
    .20 ga single barrel (make unknown)
    12 ga 870 express

    personally i kinda find the 22s to be boring after a while, but i dont want to scare her with the Mosin (wicked recoil on mine). im leaning towards the henry 22 and the .38

    what do you folks think?
    any input would be appreciated
     
  2. Ohen Cepel

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    I would stick with the .22's and revolvers. Most new shooters deal with those better.

    Maybe the SKS if she wants to give it a try.

    Skip the Nagant for sure! Unless you have some of the plastic training ammo for it, that's fun to shoot!

    Take your time and don't rush her. So many new shooters get scared off or hurt by recoil and never give it another try.
     
  3. Euclidean

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    Ask her. I'm taking my younger sister to the range for her first time tomorrow. She wanted to shoot handguns, so handguns she shall fire.
     
  4. adobewalls

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    In my opinion its easiest to start with the .22 rifles. Of course the first lesosns should be all about the fundamentals:

    1. Safety
    2. Shouldering and gripping the Firearm
    3. Sight Alignment
    4. Trigger finger control
    5. Reloading

    Then move to the mid-calibers, the SKS for example.

    After she picks up the basics, then move to the pistols, again starting with the .22's.

    Also, if your range allows it, try to use targets that "react" in some way. Part of the thrill of shooting is seeing the reults of hitting your target. Clay pidgeons, cookies, even a coke can serves the purpose.

    The two big things to keep in mind are safety and letting her learn at her own pace.
     
  5. BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE

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    I think its a good idea to start her off with a .22 if she has never shot before besides .22 is cheap shooting.

    Good job on getting a new friend to the gun and shooting world. besafe and be sure to teach her the 4 rules. Take care.
     
  6. swan hunter

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    Make sure she has proper safety equipment. Women hearing is more sensitive than that of men. Shoot .22's and when she is comfortable with them, let her see you shoot center. Encourage her to try other guns but don't push the issue. Make targets easy to hit to keep her from getting discouraged.
    Don't shoot those shotguns unless you are shooting light loads. Those guns can kick a big ol bruise on a girl!

    Make it fun and show lots of patients!
     
  7. stiletto raggio

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    The Henry, the Ruger, the Smith and the AK. Start with a .22 Rifle, then a .22 pistol, then AK, then the 38. I think she'll do just fine.
     
  8. vynx

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    Ya only have 8 listed - thats about my minimum - I say bring em all - she can watch and learn too - start off small & easy recoil and maybe let her try something bigger in the middle but end it with something that puts a smile on her face so she'll want to go again.
     
  9. JohnKSa

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    The Henry 22 and the Ruger single six.

    Maybe the AK if she really likes the other two and WANTS to try something else.
     
  10. Stauble

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    i wasnt aware of that

    thanks for the advice, please keep it comin
     
  11. mustanger98

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    My opinion... start with the Henry .22 levergun and Single-six. If she likes those and does well with them, them move to the S&W .38, with light target loads... leave the mean stuff alone because too much muzzle flip might put her off early. I know my Mom don't like a sidearm with recoil, but I also know it don't bother my sister, so you'll just hafta go slow with those and see what she likes. I'd say the Yugo SKS next, but I don't know anything about the AK-47 clone in comparison to it, so if she likes either one it'll be a matter of which one fits her better... length of pull is liable to be different. Those shotguns... whether she'll like those or not will be another case of stock fit. Whether she'll jump on the Mosin Nagant or not... I think that'll depend on whether she likes the shotguns, but then stock fit and how much recoil she finds she can tolerate. But start light and work up according to what she likes. If she's uncomfortable, back it down.

    Those guns can kick a big ol bruise on a guy if the loads are too hot and the stock don't fit right.
     
  12. Silver Bullet

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    Not exactly what you're asking, but I'm going to butt in anyway.

    Whenever I take someone new shooting, I give them a four-course set of instructions:

    1) The four safety rules.
    2) Handling instructions for the weapons we'll be shooting: some dry-firing and explanation of the action.
    3) Range rules if we're going to a range: loading locations, etc.
    4) The four safety rules.
     
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    Yeah, definitely the single six. Any .22 is great to start with.
     
  14. jac714

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    One of the moderators here, Pax has a website both of you should look at prior to taking a woman to the range the first time.

    www.corneredcat.com

    It will give you great information on teaching her and her great information on what to expect and do.

    Good Luck
     
  15. Roadwild17

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    Don't forget to have fun, safety first, but don't bore her to death. Did that to my GF and she never wants to shoot again.
     
  16. mustanger98

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    I'm a guy and my ears have been rung pretty badly. I hardly ever shoot with eyes and ears. It may not look macho but once you're deaf and blind, you probably won't get either back.

    BTW, You forgot to include a Marlin 1894 in .357mag which also shoots .38spl's. If she likes the .22LR's and the S&W .38, she'll probably love the Marlin.
     
  17. javacodeman

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    Make sure you have lots of fun. I don't know your situation, but she may say that she wants to learn how to shoot and still be a bit timid. I took my wife out to shoot and we stuck with the the .22. At first it freaked her out that she was using a deadly tool. But I kept shooting and asking her if she wanted to as well. Finally she started to enjoy it.

    Someone mentioned targets that "react." I brought several large paper targets. As soon as a target started getting tore up (~20-30 shots) we switched. I think this helped a lot.

    Point shooting haters, please stop reading now. :)

    I also had her shoot without looking down the sights and her with her upper arm against her side. My reasoning? The only time she'll ever be shooting where it counts is if there is an intruder and I am not home or worse.

    See http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=218259 for more details.

    So to finish up, I also had her shoot the H&K .40 with 180 grain bullets once at the end. This is the gun that she would use if there were an intruder, so I wanted her to at least have shot it once.

    We've been busy lately and haven't been back out (it's been two weeks), but we won't end there. We'll go out again. Soon I hope!

    Hope this helps.
     
  18. MachIVshooter

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    Exactly. What you teach her is far more important than which firearms she learns on.

    I'll add this: Drive home rule #2. All too many new shooters have a problem with this one. You say something to them (anything) while they're on the line, they turn to look at you and sweep you (and/or others) with the muzzle. You can scold them all day about getting their finger off the trigger, but one time pointing in an unsafe direction could be all she wrote.

    That said, the Nagant and the 870 are likely going to be a bit intimidating for a new female shooter. And if you're going to fire off any rifles, make sure you have muffs; ear plugs let in enough noise to be bothersome to inexperienced shooters, and this will add to the flinch impulse. The recoil will seem less if the blast is muffled to a light "thud".
     
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    The worst my ears ever got rung was with a 2" .38spl. This one 4" .22 revolver I shoot is about as bad, beleive it or not. And I shoot .243Winchester too.
     
  20. Davo

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    My .22's have always been popular with the ladies. ;)
    Its not just the lack of recoil, its the noise.
    P.S.-she may be interested in you too, its happened to me.
     
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    I'd say take the .22s, but also take the Yugo.

    Once she becomes comfortable shooting .22s, she may want to try something more powerful. This would also be one to say at the end of the day "pull the trigger as fast as you 10 times and have some fun."
     
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    If possible go to Mickey D's or somewhere before you go and discuss the fact that you are going to have fun, but you will not tolerate any horseplay.
    tell her about the 4 rules, and then tell her that when you get there and she is shooting, IF you tap her on the head she is to freeze, not move at all, that you have either seen something unsafe or you need to do something and you want her to just freeze so you can make the adjustment or whatever in complete safety. People seem to want to turn the gun as they turn their head, obviously not safe.


    I was taught to manage shooters that way when I was helping kids pass the practical aspect of Hunters Safety. Creating a single non verbal command that is unmistakable is very easy. Just finger taps on the back of the head.
     
  24. Prince Yamato

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    I say do the AK first, then move down from there. AKs are fine to shoot as a first gun. I think starting with .22s is nonsense. It also gives a false sense of lethality. .22s don't seem lethal because they barely make a poof when you shoot them, yet most accidents happen with .22s because people perceive them to be less lethal.

    The first gun I ever let a girl shoot was my Steyr Mannlicher 8x56 Mauser (~.330). It kicks like a SOB. But she loved it. Then we moved DOWN to the AK-47.
     
  25. rangerruck

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    id skipe the mosin and other heavies, go with one action type of each, then ask her which she likes the best. Def take the AK.
     
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