Taking control of a car

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I happen to know a girl who, to say the least, has a sort of bad taste when it comes to boyfriends. The latest one she has, even though she says he isn't dangerous, has tried to kill himself sometimes by driving off a bridge. Naturally, I'm worried one day he might try it with her in the car with him. What are some good methods of wresting control of a vehicle from someone? I was thinking a basic handsword chop to the neck and then grabbing the wheel, but I'd prefer a more experienced opinion.

And yeah, I know, get rid of the wacko boyfriend. I'm working on that one.:cuss:
 
Try a 127 gr sleeping pill to the temple while shifting into neutral?
 
put car in P/N/R what ever the shifter slips into and turn the key off.

or
tell her to always drive.
 
Contact shot to the temple and have your way with the car. Nice blow to the temple with a brass knuckle-like device can put a guy's lights out. A hit to the windpipe (brass knuckles or similar would be nice) would also help.
Roll of coins - nickels, quarters, dimes - make a good fist reinforcer for a harder hit.
I don't think pepper spray would be a good option if you're trying to get control of the car. You don't want the guy behind the wheel to go blind and berserk at the same time. He may stop the car and get out, floor it, who knows.
Escaping the car is a little easier to do. A little pepper spay might help there.
 
maybe she should just drive.

if not there is always shooting him in the face.
 
maybe she should just drive.

if not there is always shooting him in the face.
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I know it's wrong to laugh at this comment, but I'm friggin' dyin' from this one! This should be a "sig" line. :rolleyes:
 
In the movies the scriptwriter says that people are rendered instantly unconscious from a single blow. It doesn't work that way in real life. Sorry. Getting into a hand to hand confrontation over control of a moving vehicle is likely to be just as dangerous as letting the guy drive off of the bridge. That isn't likely to work out as well as the scriptwriters show you either.

Shooting the driver in the face leaves you with the duty of moving a possibly lifeless body out of your way so that you can access the controls.

Unless it's written into the script and performed by trained special effects people, you probably shouldn't try it.

Avoidance is really the only viable option.

Jeff
 
This is a tough one. The main thing you want to do is bring the car to a stop, and this is the most difficult thing to do when not in the drivers seat. If there is an ebrake in the center console, give it a hard yank. Then hold on tight :D The rear wheels will lock up and unless the car is not moving very fast and the driver keeps the wheel straight (unlikely given the situation), the rear end will spin around FAST. I don't know how good of a driver this guy is, but I doubt he can control an ebrake spin at speed (it takes a lot of practice, ask me how I know :evil: )

Alternatively, if the car is an auto, you can put it into Neutral or Reverse or Park. Neutral can be engaged while he is still on the gas, though Drive can easily be engaged from Neutral. If he happens to hit the gas, throw the lever into Reverse or Park. Modern trannies are usually smart enough not to explode outright, but Park makes a very interesting clickity noise as the tranny tries to engage the pin in the transmission. That would probably distract the guy, and you can use some of the other physical techniques others have suggested.
 
What are some good methods of wresting control of a vehicle from someone?
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Automatic car: shove the gear selector into "N."

Manual car: yank the shift lever out of gear and into neutral. Even without the clutch, you can pull the tranny out of gear with a sharp tug.

Any car: slowly pull up on the E-brake. Don't yank it in one shot...you'll just lock up the rear and probably spin off the road. Instead, press the button and pull up slowly. That way, you can modulate the brakes to some degree.

Any car: switch off the ignition + pulling out the key. This is pretty much a "Hail Mary" move: the engine will die; the steering wheel will lock in whatever position it happens to be in; the brakes will be very hard to use since there will be no more vacuum boost from the engine. Chances of wrecking the car = pretty good.
 
davina,

Posts in S&T don't have to necessarily be gun related. They do have to have some relation to developing an awareness and self defense mindset, and this has some elements of that.


Rule #1 - Women should avoid unstable men.

Rule #2 - Well meaning men should avoid women that consistently tangle themselves up with unstable men.

Both have underlying emotional and psychological problems that require the assistance of professionals to solve.
 
I don't think pepper spray would be a good option if you're trying to get control of the car. You don't want the guy behind the wheel to go blind and berserk at the same time. He may stop the car and get out, floor it, who knows.
Escaping the car is a little easier to do. A little pepper spay might help there.
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Pepper spray inside a car? :scrutiny:

Not too sure about that. Sounds like a recipe for mutual incapacitation.
 
Pepper spray inside a car?

Not too sure about that. Sounds like a recipe for mutual incapacitation.
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You ain't kidding. I was at a dance club once when a can of pepper spray accidentally discharged in a girl's purse. No idea how it happened but just know it was accidental. The ENTIRE canister. Even though it was in the purse when it discharged it still cleared out the entire front area of the bar.

In a car that would just be nasty. Think I'd rather take my chances with the air bags deploying then get nailed with my own pepper spray in a car.
 
"I was thinking a basic handsword chop to the neck and then grabbing the wheel, but I'd prefer a more experienced opinion."


You've been watching too many movies and teeeveee shows. Pay attention to what Jeff White wrote.

Tell the girl that if she has any brains at all, she'll never get in a vehicle with that loser again.

L.W.
 
"Not too sure about that. Sounds like a recipe for mutual incapacitation."
True. I meant that using it as a Parthian shot might work*. Girl unlocks the door, prepares to bail out. Loony boyfriend makes a grab at her, wants to keep her aboard (suicidal folks sometimes want to take others with 'em). Spray 'im in the eyes to release hold and jump out.

It's a pretty rotten plan, yes - predicated on the rotten notion that said gal willing comes inside with a guy who wants to off himself. When you jump out, you might get hit by a car (or a semi) going at 70 MPH. In which case, you're probably dead. Completely dependent on the situation. Like a half-dozen folks said already, avoidance of those kinds of situations is the best policy.
Seems there was a thread a while ago... 'dead driver tactics' or something. In case the driver suddenly had a heart attack, was shot, etc.

*Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, a LEO, a SEAL-Ranger-Superspy-CIA Agent, or a Mall Ninja. The ideas put forth are ideas from a buck private of the 101st Armchair Airborne.
 
In the movies the scriptwriter says that people are rendered instantly unconscious from a single blow. It doesn't work that way in real life....
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Actually, this is possible. I have seen someone rendered dazed and barely conscious after being struck LIGHTLY in the temple. The victim dropped to the ground, became sick, and had to be taken to the hospital. However, this is very unlikely and not a reliable method. Just like a gunshot to a moving target, placement is everything, and it must be in the perfect spot to have this effect.

I don't really like most of the solutions suggested in this thread, except this one:

How about refusing to ride with someone like that?
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I believe the ONLY solution would be to listen to thebaldguy.

If the bridge in question is one that can driven off, there is no definite way for her to take complete control of the car and prevent that. EVEN if she were a man of equal size as the driver, the driver's goal of getting the car out of control and off a bridge is an easy task. The passenger's chances of getting the car into their control is almost impossible (assume that this is a bridge that one can just drive off). If there are guard rails, then there is some hope - of at least crashing and slowing down. Still, I'm guessing she is smaller and weaker than he, so I don't see her as having much of a chance.
 
Try a 127 gr sleeping pill to the temple while shifting into neutral?
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How do you explain that one?

"Well you see officer, he was, uh, going to drive off that bridge there, and, uh I didn't want him to do it with me in there."

" Oh I see what your saying. Yep, he has his hands on the wheel and his foot on the gas pedal. Definite intent. You can go ahead and head home and we'll clean up here."
 
tank mechanic - you should definitely sprinkle some crack on his body if you are going to use that one. Crack always makes the story more believable ;)
 
Again, maybe I missed it..... How was the original post Gun Related? It did not say or imply anything gun related......:confused:
 
Dr. Who

Posts in S&T don't have to necessarily be gun related. They do have to have some relation to developing an awareness and self defense mindset, and this has some elements of that.
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