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Talk me out of a Sig P232!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by YosemiteSam357, Oct 29, 2007.

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  1. YosemiteSam357

    YosemiteSam357 Member

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    I love the looks but don't need another gun.

    The .380 round is more expensive than 9mm (where I shop), so it wouldn't be for economy. I don't put much stock in the .380 as a defensive round (no flames please; besides, I've got a carry gun in a different caliber). I owned a Mak in .380 so I know what the round feels like. I only want the P232 because it's pretty, and I've wanted one for a number of years.

    It's not practical. I've spent too much money on guns this year. Just bought another one last week. But I can't. Stop. Thinking. About. It.

    Argh.

    Please tell me how horrible they are, and what a disservice I'd be doing to myself by buying one. I know they don't have a slide release. So you slice your finger every time you want to close the slide on an empty gun, right?

    -- Sam
     
  2. Shipwreck

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    DON'T DO IT! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Did that work? :D

    Go get a Bersa 380 for $200-$220 and save the rest of the cash!
     
  3. HammerBite

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    How many guns do you have? How many can you carry and shoot at the same time? See, you're already screwed. Buy the gun, then you can think about something else.

    One of the other things you can think about is getting a P-230 to go with the P-232 so you can while away the hours studying the subtle differences.

    Then, of course, you will need a Mauser HSc, which was the source of the styling cues for the SIGs.

    Then you'll have three .380 guns which look pretty much alike, so a Browning BDA-380 will be in order to break the monotony, and then . . .

    Don't you miss the Mak?
     
  4. Hokkmike

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    Use the money to buy ammo for the guns you have. If you must but the SIG, go ahead and send it to me. That will help stem your materialistic lust! It's OK, I would do it for anybody!
     
  5. romma

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    Can't do it! But I might be able to talk you out of buying a PPK/S from experience!
     
  6. MK11

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    The P230/P232 is the only Sig whose reliability can be questioned. Looks great, shoots great but it's also the only Sig I don't trust.
     
  7. Marshall

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    Buy it. :)
     
  8. UnTainted

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    I too would prefer a 9mm or more for defense,

    EXCEPT -

    the P232 is one of the most accurate pistols that I own. I love it, and with that accuracy (not just from the sights, but with quick pointability) I know I can achieve the placement neccessary to harness the existing effectiveness of the 380ACP.

    If you think you should not get this gun, then you're totally wrong. You SHOULD. ;)
     
  9. strat81

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    I guess you've never heard of the Sig Mosquito. It's the Cadillac Cimarron of guns.
     
  10. Rumble

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    I can't talk you out of it, but I will happily take it off your hands once you acquire it, so you don't have to be reminded of it ever again. :D


    Edit: However, I will say that I have had issues with mine feeding Hydrashoks. Never a problem with FMJ, though.
     
  11. nwilliams

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    No, I refuse to do so because I need someone to talk me out of one:p

    Actually the only reason I don't have one is because my little Makarov suits me just fine and at a fraction of the cost. Plus I also like having the more powerful 9x18 round from a self defense standpoint.
     
  12. jlbraun

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    P232's are notorious for slide bite, as well as being not all that reliable.
     
  13. 1BLINDREF

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    That's funny - I completely forgot about the Cimarron. I wonder why you see them on the road anymore? :rolleyes:

    Oh yeh - just go buy the damn thing, you only live once. I'm sure you work hard for a living and you deserve it. Think of it as an early christmas present to yourself. It'll beat the socks, tie, and underwear that you'll get.
    If your gonna buy a .380, it may as well be a Sig.
    Post a picture after you get it! :D
     
  14. tydephan

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    You don't need a 232. They are ugly. ;)

    Sig_232_on_vest_1_640.jpg

    232CloseUp640.jpg
     
  15. Marshall

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    Probably one of the top 3 best looking guns on the market.
     
  16. Lonestar49

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    I agree

    Quote: The P230/P232 is the only Sig whose reliability can be questioned. Looks great, shoots great but it's also the only Sig I don't trust.
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    Especially the P232 SL (stainless steel models).. They "demand" perfection, and are very unforgiving with powder residue build-up, mainly from the "blow-back-action" both, on the feed ramp and the interior walls of one's magazines.

    In my experience, one must keep a round count, and when you have 200 rounds, get rdy, if you don't do a complete disassembly, Inspection, cleaning, because for my gun, at around the 230 round mark, I will get 1 jam per mag, and it is always after the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd shot, guaranteed, every magazine and round beyond that.

    But, keeping her clean, she goes 100% and I'm glad I own one, but not for on the road, CCW, only around house for yardwork duty or here, at my desk, on top of my PC tower just under my desk..


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  17. YosemiteSam357

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    tydephan, I stumbled on that pic over the weekend while I was reading up on these puppies. That's a real nice one. I'm thinking two-tone, but would want dark wood grips, too. I can stain them myself. Hmm....

    Sold the Mac in a housecleaning. "Didn't need" .380s then, either. Sold all my .40s then (including a 239, too...) because I "didn't need" them, either. Bought another .40 last week... The Mac was OK, a little rough, but never a hiccup.

    If I wanted more power I'd look into a Walther P-5; Same basic shape, but a recoil operated 9mm. But I'm not looking for that power. Indeed, I probably won't carry the P232, it would just be another range gun. And the P232 looks sooo much better, without that ugly bulging trigger guard.

    Thanks a lot for the responses.

    BTW, speaking of bombs, anyone remember the Cadillac "8-6-4" engine? :D The one with the ECM that would rat you out to the dealer for going over 55mph?

    -- Sam
     
  18. gotarheels03

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    why not a P225 instead?
     
  19. tydephan

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    Yosemite,

    I can honestly say that out of the guns I've bought online, that 232 was the only one I stalked.

    Frandy was the previous owner of that gun and I always marveled at how nice the Nill grips looked on the stainless 232. I had a 230 previously, but in a fit of stupidity traded it.

    So when Frandy put that 232 up for sale in the Trading Post, I was all over it.

    I'm looking for a blued version in good shape that I can put Nill grips on to complete the set. :D
     
  20. Lonestar49

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    For about 300 bucks more you could

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    Take a warm look at a Springfield EMP 1911 9mm 9+1 SAO vs the P 232's 380 7+1 DA/SA and have the best of both worlds, IMHO.

    I did, and have NO regrets, as it is just as small, packs a larger punch, is far more forgiving not having a "blow-back-action" and has gone 550 rounds so far without any hiccups, just 100% and, IMO, is far more accurate at close, or at range, 63ft, and with fast follow-up shots that are accurate and tight.

    Here's a pic comparing the 2..


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  21. YosemiteSam357

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    Guys... What does a 1911 or a P225 have to do with a P232, when I have specifically said it's the styling of the P232 that appeals to me? Neither of those guns have a thing to do with the one I was asking about, mechanically, by caliber, or in the looks dept. I'm really happy you like your guns, but simply throwing out random suggestions was not the goal here. Heck, by that reasoning I might as well check out a Glock, too!

    That said, it's likely the (clearly, conspiratorial [that's sarcasm]) price of ammo may do me in where reason does not: My local shop gets not "just a little" more, but 50% more for .380 than 9mm. At $14/50 it's the same price as my .40 S&W practice ammo. A heck of an expensive plinker. When I gave up .380s earlier it was down around $7/box.

    -- Sam
     
  22. Lonestar49

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    You asked, good? OR bad?

    YS, you asked for pro's and con's.. IF the con's outweighed the pro's in your book after it's all said and done, the options are for you, on the table to use or not..

    I'm just telling ya that for "the money" even IF it was just for the range, knowing what I went thru, and have, I would NOT recommend a P 232 380 caliber vs a more powerful, same size, 9mm, especially the 380's dirty blow-back- action..

    I offered my opinion based on experience, not lack of cleaning, and just put an option for ya on the table that IMHO, is "better", all the way around.

    Simple, take it for whatever it's worth, and best of luck.

    And, if you would like to buy one, LNIB, broken in, 1325 rounds, PM me. Can include 3 holsters, 1 leather OWB, 1 ankle, 2 IWB clip ons, 450 rounds of new Winchester ammo, and 40 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra Shok 90gr JHP and one extra mag with belt-on mag holder.


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  23. YosemiteSam357

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    Well thanks, but I already have 9mm, .40, .38, .357, .44. .45 (Colt and ACP), .22, .223, .243, .30-30, and 12 gauge if I were looking for alternate calibers. :D

    I tried to send you a PM, but was told you either have it disabled or it is not allowed for some reason. Please drop me an email or PM with your email and I'll get back to you. Thanks for the offer!

    -- Sam
     
  24. Lonestar49

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    A little trick to PMs

    Quote: Please tell me how horrible they are, and what a disservice I'd be doing to myself by buying one. I know they don't have a slide release. So you slice your finger every time you want to close the slide on an empty gun, right?
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    First, lol, they're not horrible, and NO, you will not, or do not, slice you finger every-time you want to close the slide on an empty gun, you just simply activate the mag thumb release, lower the mag just a tad and pull back the slide and let her go, then use the decocker and you got it.. :) Fast and Easy.

    On the PM, just before your hit the "submit button" scroll down until you see the empty box that reads, "send even if person is not on your buddy list" put a check mark in that empty box with a clk of the mouse, and then go back up and hit submit, and I will get your PM.. lol, that took me a few times to figure out..


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  25. Pigspitter

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    someone in our paper was selling one nib for $350
     
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