Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by JeeperCreeper, Mar 9, 2021.
The Heritage big bores are Pietta made parts.
LOL! Ok, have to go with that.
I purchased a (Model P, 1873 style single action, Prewar) 6 or 7 years ago and another this year. Other than the conversion to the 3-click retractable hammer, the guns look just the same....except the fit of the parts on the model from 6 or 7 years ago is much better. I will give the new model credit that the case hardening is nicer to look at (but that likely varies gun to gun anyway and is not a generation thing).
There is a fair bit more tooling marks and bad fit on the new one. The old one is just about perfect for a not-super-expensive kinda gun. I'll never get rid of it, I ordered it blind from Bud's.
To get a new one, I had to dig through 3 of these or so to find the one I liked the most and it still has issues. This was NIB.
This is a bit nitpicky, but worth mentioning.
Note: The gapping of the wood to the backstrap...is more serious than it seems when you pull the grip off. The wood wants to shoot out of the backstrap. You cannot force the backstrap and grip to sit together flush by hand unless you are Thor. They only get somewhat in line when the backstrap screws are torqued down real good. (Which is great for stripping things.) I pulled the grip/backstrap off my old model and it fits together perfectly. No force needed to seat things. The new set is fighting itself, so they just torqued it down and called it a day.
From what I can tell the backstrap itself is the issue..not square where it should be. But good luck getting one anywhere right now.
If you are buying a new one to complete a "pair" with an older model, it'll take some work to make them feel like a pair. There is a difference in trigger pull/cocking (new is lighter) and position. You can see the older model trigger sits farther back in the guard, where I like it. Barely any travel at all through all hammer positions.
(Older Model on Bottom)
As a slightly-off topic but related side note....another company doing parts for these and importing Uberti stuff...I got a new trigger and hammer from Taylors and Co to convert this 3-click to 4-click to match my old gun. Look at this knurling on the Taylor hammer I got. Off-center..pitty/sloppy knurling. I installed it anyway and ordered a second (can't send this back as I've already stoned/polished/installed it.) hoping to get a nicer one the second time around.
I think I could center and knurl this better by hand...drunk..in the dark.
I'm done griping. Just shocked at what kind of fit/finish you get on some of these things.
Nice walnut grips & very tidy checkering for a gun in this price range. The trigger is sweet as well.
I never noticed this before. This really is laughingly bad. Somebody's retarded in-law must be responsible for hammer checkering at Uberti.
Fortunately I'm right-handed. If I were a lefty my thumb might slip off that wide margin.
I'm going to try to overlook this one blemish but I'm afraid that once seen it can never be un-seen.
Case colors do vary by gun but are also absolutely generation. 20yrs ago, they all looked like this.
They've not only improved their case colors but they're also much more consistent. Now they more or less look like this:
The older one I've shot dozens of time and it's beautiful. The new one I haven't had out to shoot yet..trying to find .45 lc around here is nigh impossible.
That's a good idea. I just got a second in the mail (I ordered a second hoping for better luck, but also just to have a spare hammer/trigger set around) today actually, I was only slightly surprised to see that it was just as bad. Apparently, that's how they do it now.
Has anyone here tried to re-knurl a hammer? I feel like I could get something better with some strategic file work. Maybe spring for a checkering file.
Those are both beautiful for different reasons. I love the subtlety of the older model, but that new case color does give it a bit of something nice to look at.
I'm with you. My OCD can't take it. But how this is acceptable to their quality people I don't know....
I've always liked the gun, don't want to be disappointed.
The colorful finish on the frame looks good. The trigger and action are very smooth.
It's as accurate as my aging eyes allow. I painted the front sight white for next time.
And yes, looking at it carefully, the checkering on the hammer spur is not perfectly centered.
If you just glance quickly you don't notice, but if you're looking for it you'll realize that the checkering is a bit closer to one side than the other.
Bought mine in 2014.
Sorry, I tried to talk you out of it, but, I am actually an enabler, and now that I am thinking about it, I have to go look to see if there are any out there I want to buy before you get them all.
The new Model P that I just bought, last month, has fit and finish issues and the bad knurling. I just bought two hammers from Taylors and Co...they both have the same bad knurling. :shrug:
I think someone mentioned them going to laser cutting and that must be when they started looking like junk.
Very nice. Love that..Dalton?
Great looking guns. Probably a very slight timing issue on the hombre it seems, but that is somewhat normal with these guns too from what I've seen. I love the matte look on that with the brass...I might have to get one.
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