Taper crimping?

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    That's it !

    Into the time out corner for you ! :p
    Glad you weren't hurt.
     
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    Golden rule #1, never shoot someone else's handloads.
     
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    Did you re-size after pulling bullets while checking charges?
    Re-weighing is not to be relied upon. Pull them.
     
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    No, I didn't. I made more mistakes trying to sight the rifle in than I can count.
     
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    Strangely enough, I started reloading 9mm for a friend before I started shooting. Back in the days of OCD, youth, attention to detail, I could crank out a decent round.
     
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    I think there may be a spanking in the near future.
     
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    I'm glad you were not hurt. And your honesty about the mistakes that were made will help out other reloaders in the future. Threads like this makes me slow down and start analyzing everything I do at the bench.
     
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    Yeah I think a blown barrel is probably plenty O' punishment as it is. The lmportant thing is you were not hurt and learned a bunch after as well. Something many of us have had to face in the past ourselves.
     
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    Don't beat yourself up too badly @Lizzie Borden . We've all done stupid crap.

    Experience is merely a series of non-fatal mistakes.
     
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    Sure have. :)
     
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    It’s good to hear you weren’t hurt. Usually a squib load has a markedly different noise than a usual one.
    If I understand correctly the squib was a result of your re-loading reloaded ammunition? I’ve never pulled a bullet and then reseated it without first re-sizing first, if that was the case. Perhaps others can comment, but I wouldn’t trust there’d be enough neck tension after a pull operation. Good luck!
     
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    "Commercial reloads"? I'd send the rest of the ammo back to Freedom Munitions with a few pics. They more than likely won't do much if anything, but they gotta know why a few hundred reloaders/shooters from this forum won't buy any ammo from them.
     
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    Thanks. That's a good perspective.
    I'm not new to reloading - I've been doing it for 30 years and have re-bulleted many rounds - but I believe I did do a full length resizing.
     
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    I'm going to give them a call and see what they're willing to do. Unfortunately, the ammo is pre-pandemic - mid 2019 I think. I didn't get around to trying it until this "spring" (if you can call it that) due to ongoing health problems caused by spinal nerve root injuries.
     
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    I just want to say that you are all fantastic. Polite, funny and very knowledgeable and able to communicate precisely. I'm glad I'm here.
     
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    I sent an email off to Freedom Munitions regarding the .308. I'm expecting a xin loy back from them.

    It turns out that Freedom Munitions went bankrupt in 2018 and was bought out. I bought the ammo in 4/2020 and their policy is refunds/returns in the first 90 days after purchase only. Thinking back to about 2018, I had to return an order of .380 auto that was overcharged. The replacement batch was fine.

    I'm not buying from them again.
     
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    Gonna rebarrel that thing and get it going again?

    It's there any bolt or receiver damage?
     
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    The only damage is to the barrel, 4" above the gas port. Right now, I'm not sure what's going to happen to the rifle. Freedom Munitions is considering covering the repair. I'd planned to have the barrel cut below the damage, crowned an have a new flash hider and front sight installed.
     
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    I would look it over (or have it looked over.) A force strong enough to blow out the barrel forward of the gas port probably put a LOT of velocity on the bolt and gas system. The energy that ruptured the barrel also went into the piston....unless there was bullet-on-bullet impact or something else.

    Was (what was left of) the barrel clear of obstructions?
     
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    A bullet won't fall down a barrel past the gas port and then stop, as shown on the pic. It had to be pushed to engage the rifiling to get that far. Neck tension didn't cause this.

    Clearly, this is a "short round" and if it is a commercial reload, I'd notify the co. about the problems. As a minimum, they should want to get back the rest of the unfired lot. However; you probably lost any standing when you disassembled their loads. If there was any other issues with their product, this is also a good place, THR, for a community service safety announcenent about the mfgr.
     
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    We all have been there at some point. Even after doing it for many years, it can happen, it shouldn’t happen, but sometimes it does when we loose focus. The main thing is that you were not injured and the barrel can be replaced, everything else is secondary.
     
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    Those 2 words are a little bit strong. There's no need to be that hard on yourself. You weren't skating on any ice we haven't trod over ourselves !!

    Let's simply say you've had an opportunity to become a quick learner ! From such experience "Experts" are born.
     
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    Glad you were not injured. Hopefully your rifle can be repaired.
     
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