target load for .38

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now that we have spent a ton of time developing the best load for our revolver, we then spend another period of time determining which of the cylinders in our revo are the most accurate shooting.

there should be at least one that is the sweet one, sometimes several, and sometimes all (very fortunate). for slow fire paper work, load the five best, or, load the sweetie five times single shot if that is your case, or curse. goes without saying that the sweet one is the first to fire when hunting.

do not despair, this is enjoyable and intriguing. no way to explain the great feeling of personal satisfaction as your skills and loads develop.
 
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Do yourself a favor and do some web searches for Cast Bullets and the like. You will get more info. than you ever thought existed. Pay attention to prices and shipping costs. Lead is heavy and can get expensive to ship. I have been happy with National Bullet Co. in Ohio and Precision Cast Bullets in PA.
 
OK, thanks, folks. I've been away over the weekend. got a nice old model 15-2 S&W "K38 Combat Masterpiece". Will be getting my reloading gear this month and will set up my loading area. Your info has helped a lot. Thank you.

I'll soon be able to chime in with my own results and opinions.
 
Use to use Federal, now I use nothing but Winchester. :cool:

Basically, you won't go wrong with either Federal or Winchester.
 
I've had trouble with CCI primers in my Dillion press. Called the hotline said they didn't reccomend CCI. They suggested WInchester and I have not gone back

CCI primers also tend to be the "hardest" so if your revolver has lighter springs could cause a problem.
 
PS make sure you don't buy magnum primers when you need standard. Don't know why stores around here seem to stock 80% magnum primers when 90% of loads need the standard:confused:
 
CCI 500 is the recommended primer for .38 soecial regular loads in the Lyman Handgun Loading Manual.

And then there's the reference in the Lee loading Manual to CCI and, I think Winchester as the only two to use. He warns against Federal, I think, as being too dangerous for the primer trays.
 
let me wade in and throw some gas on the fire:

I've found the Federals to be most sensitive, hottest primer of the standard primers. Slightly more expensive ~$1.00/M. I use these exclusively in .357Mag. loads using 2400/Win296/H110 powders. They give pressures below and velocities above most published loads. These powders usually require a 5-7% reduction in weight if used with Magnum primers with associated loss of velocity. They also "talk"-show flattening or cratering- before too high pressures are encountered before the harder primers do. The Lee warning against using them is valid- see last paragraph !!!

Winchester are a predictable commodity, usually slightly cheaper and more available than Federals. New non-plated primers are very slightly "softer" than old plated ones, otherwise no discernable difference.

CCI are hardest, weakest, and tightest to seat of three, price runs about same as winchesters.
Had one batch that gave some FTF's, but may have been contaminated prior to my reciept from wholesaler- packaging appeared to be "stained", were part of a "close-out" deal- bought them VERY cheap.

Remington, about as hard as CCI, very consistent, and more expensive and less available than Federals. The 51/2's I got from a shop at half price when they were going out of business were best I ever used for hot .38Supers though; Super is now gone and so are the 25M primers I got for $125.00 !!!

I shoot about 30-50,000 .38's and 9's a year shooting/practicing for NRA PPC, I use the Federals in my revolvers as they are tuned for the Federal primers.
In 9mm, since blowing the Nationals in '98 with a pierced primer in Match 1, I only use Winchesters in the high pressure auto's (9mm,38Super,.40S&W). I still prefer the Federal Large Pistol for the .45acp though. My match .45's use Federal cases and the Federal primers seat the easiest IMO.
Accuracy at 50yds is indistinguishable w/revolvers & pistols from my testing between the different manufacturers, but my loads are mild accuracy loads-withing SAAMI though, only at or near max is the 9mm's.
I use the Winchester Small Pistol in my .22 Hornet too. It'll shoot one-hole 5-shot groups @ 100yds on occasion w/ 50gr Hornady SX over either 10.8 Hod LILGun or 11.6gr of AA1680 from neck-turned Winchester brass.

Contrary to the warning on the Lee presses, I've had good luck loading the Federal primers, Though, I do always use safety glasses.... I had a half-full tray of them ignite one evening when a piece of tumbling media lodged on the primer seating punchin a Pro1000. It was late at night..... I was wide awake after that, but not any damage except a small cut on my thumb from flying plastic primer tray. I'm more careful now !!!!
 
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They also "talk"-show flattening or cratering- before too high pressures are encountered

Thanks for this information. I use Federal exclusively and often notice flattened primers without any other pressure signs. I will certainly continue to be observant but this eases my mind a bit.
 
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