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Taurus 445, 44 Spec Ultra Lite

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by HiVel1, Apr 4, 2012.

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  1. HiVel1

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    Anybody have experience with this snorter? I would like to look at getting one for a car gun since my last car gun was stolen and it was a very nice customized Glock 30-too much $ to lose again. I have had several Taurus revolvers in 38 and they were OK guns -had a WalMart 38 special Taurus I bought new for next to nothing and it was a pretty nice gun. Also had some of the 85 series 38 snubs -several people close to me still have them and they seem to work good. Is this 44 a good buy-does it shoot accurately and with no problems? I have had one really poor example of semi auto Taurus 9mm and dont need that type of aggravation.
    Appreciate the info-will look at theTaurus site but that is sort of predjudiced.
    Thanks
     
  2. weregunner

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    I was going to help until I saw the "prejudice" thing. It's the people who actually own them who are there and that is prejudice? Wow!

    If it didn't work I was going to include that, but not now.
    I'm letting the links go away and not come back.

    There are plenty of people who've had Taurus problems and those people were helped with to deal with the problem and keep the gun and owner up and going.

    There are also those of us who haven't had any problem with them,too. That's prejudice?

    From now on I'll claim that all posts are prejudiced cause the owners have them and had good experience with them.Just following the "logic" and "conventional wisdom" that isn't wise to its conclusion using your line of "reasoning". :rolleyes::uhoh::eek::eek:
     
  3. Carne Frio

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    Are you talking about the Taurus Titanium 44 special ?
    The one with the 2 inch barrel and six small ports on
    the sides of the front site ? I have one and use it for
    my nightstand gun. It seems to prefer 200gr Silvertips.
    Is it a good buy ? I don't know. It is reliable.
     
  4. mnrivrat

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    Just about every brand has those folks who swear by them, and those that swear at them.

    The fact is that not all guns of the same kind/model coming off the assembly line are equal. Some are fine and others can be lousy. There are a lot of good Taurus guns out there giving great service and there are some that need to be painted yellow. The same can be said for most any brand .

    There is nothing wrong with the Taurus as long as you get an average good one. I like the 44 Spl and shoot that caliber from a small frame revolver with no problem. The recoil is not sharp, and lends itself rather well to lighter guns.
     
  5. TennJed

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    I own and enjoy several makes of handguns and post on serveral message boards. But I will admit, most times when I want general opinions on guns I avoid the brand decicated forums. Prejudice, might not be the word I use, but I feel sometimes when you get lots of people together that are dedicated enough to post on a particular forum, you have a representation of the more dedicated fan. General opinions may not be as objective as others.

    If I need specific info about a gun, there is usually no better place to go than the company dedicated forum. All things considered though I enjoy all boards I post on (that is why I post on them :))
     
  6. weregunner

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    Afraid to take actual use over something else?

    One can devine what is true and what is over board with some common sense.

    Why do they like the gun? How does it really perform? Not just glittering praise,but substantiated fact.

    WHen I went looking for my Ruger PC9s, SR-9 and c model,the Ruger P95s, the Ruger Mini14s, I looked here, but found more info that proved or disproved things at the 2 Ruger forums.

    When I get my Beretta firearms, I check here, but the Beretta forum gave me more of what I needed to help make the case for what I got. It proved sound data.

    For the Springfield XD-9 I looked here ,found some good stuff, but the Springfield XD forum had more of what I needed than here.

    Same went for the SIGs I've got.

    I did good and deep research and sifted the wheat from the chaff. No problem.

    Shutting yourself off from a good source of data is rather silly.
     
  7. Jubal sackett

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    I think that Hivel1 used the wrong word and ruffled some feathers. Predjuiced should be replaced by biased. It is true the pro Taurus folk will post on the Taurus forum and thats good. You can get some really good info there.

    But for an objective view, you can't beat THR. You get both sides of the question.

    I have 2 Taurus 44 special revolvers. Love them both.
     
  8. Stainz

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    HiVel1,

    Remember Oppie at the range? He had a Taurus Ti snubbie .44 Spcl - bought on closeout from your once favorite pusher. It wasn't as slick as my 296 and it started dragging at 30 rounds of 200gr Gold Dot Blazers the first day he brought it out to the range - he couldn't get a whole box through at one rather rapid session. Being all-Ti, it had a thermal problem - and it got hot quickly. Ti is tougher than Al alloys or steel to machine cleanly, which may explain it's use only as a cylinder in S&W - and they've all but stopped making them, now. I shot it that day - it was dependable as a protector - I hit the SPC steel targets at 12yd with it, just certainly not a range plinker, that's for sure. The Charter Arms .44 Specials are similar. One thing they both had when I shot them... and they share that with my 296... a bit more bounce than the heavier 696! So, for a car protector - which won't break the bank - a decent used one of either the lite weight Taurus or the Charter Arms variety should be fine.

    Stainz
     
  9. oldfool

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    HiVel1
    THR search function works really well
    search "Taurus 44 special", you will get 491 thread hits
    (opinions vary, in general it appears some specific models win high marks from owners, and some specific models do not)
    in the meantime, at least a couple of THR owners have offered on-topic opinions, and 44 special caliber deserves more attention than it gets

    PS
    yes, all sponsor branded forums are biased
    (but some apparently don't get enough hits on their own merits)
    and Qwicks draw thinks every Taurus handgun ever made is wunnerful, wunnerful
    (just in case you were wondering)
     
  10. Monster Zero

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    "I would like to look at getting one for a car gun since my last car gun was stolen"

    Uh... were you keeping a gun in your car all the time? If you were, did you learn anything?

    Just axin'.
     
  11. weregunner

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    Nope your wrong. I've said there have been cases of bad examples. Not the way you portray them.

    And there are two sides to the Taurus debate at the Taurus forum.

    There are people who do not like 445 for their own reasons. Not because the gun is bad. That was going to be introduced.

    There are also a lot of 44 Special, Taurus 441,431, and Rossi 720 threads to go around as well.

    So this is not a an actual query about the Taurus 445 or we would be getting to the actual meat of what a 445 is really like.

    There was a lot of good data that was going to be offered,good,the bad ,and the ugly, but that isn't going to happen from this viewpoint as it was never about the gun.

    No one would knowingly cut themselves off from real info in that way.
     
  12. weregunner

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    No ruffled feathers. I just see whats going on here and am not going to participate.
     
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    I've got a Ti in 44Spc. and love it. It's accurate, reliable, and very light. It also a 5 shot, so its slimmer than a 6 shooter. S&W could take a hint from that design. Wish my 629PC was a five shot.
     
  14. TennJed

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    I am not sure whats going on here, you seemed quite offended at the mere mention that taurusarmed.net is not the only source of taurus info.

    First off, I honestly think THR is the best place to get any info firearm related.

    And I stand by my premise that a broader collection of a certain segment of the population is, on average, a better place to get objective info on a subject. When you get a concentration of like minded individuals, you tend to get an opinion that leans one way. Not sure why that would upset you, it is just a fact of life. I have been to taurus forums and get some great info there, usually more specific info, not opinions. But THR is my first stop for opinions
     
  15. oldfool

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    TennJed
    "I am not sure whats going on here,"

    just a little unbiased evangelism, that's all... nothing 'prejudicial' of course
    (not that there's anything wrong with that, you know)

    weregunner, THR join date Aug 12, 2006, 1,319 posts
    Feb 7, 2007 11:51AM THR post announcing formation of new forum taursarmed.net, seeking moderators
    "Trolls and bashers need not apply"
    "Own models 66,65,85CH and 94. Pistols are only two. PT22 and PT111 Mil/pro."
    (apparently now owns twenty-something, maybe thirty-something, must like 'em quite a lot, I reckon)
    late edit - 31 Taurus revolvers, last I heard, not counting Taurus autoloaders

    Qwiks draw (moderator, over yonder), member #4, join date Jan 9, 2007
    a rather familiar sounding theme repetitively heard right here on THR -
    Past and Present Taurus Threads: Here and Abroad
    http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/faq-discussions/5892-past-present-taurus-threads-here-abroad.html
    "Please note that in the early threads a guy named only as JR47 trashes the fallacies,lies, and untruth set upon the screen by others".

    THR non-brand sponsored forum 'hits'
    Most users ever online was 4,526, March 6, 2011 at 10:00 PM.
    Threads: 594,040, Posts: 7,937,946, Members: 160,672, Active Members: 13,939

    over yonder - brand sponsored forum 'hits'
    Most users ever online was 437, 02-26-2012 at 05:15 PM.
    (all donations cheerfully accepted)

    PS
    Taurus makes some specific 44 special models which win high marks from owners
    (honest, no kidding)
    and there are plenty of THR threads on 'em, pro and con
    (really, no kidding)
    I don't own one though
    (and not a member over yonder, either.... but I did just throw the fellow one free link 'hit')

    be well and support the charity of your own choice ;)
     
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    old4x4,

    S&W and Taurus both followed Charter Arms with their versions of the 5-shot .44 Special in the mid-late 1990's. They are all similar enough to use the same speedloader - the HKS #CA44. The 445 Ti and S&W #296 (see below) were featured on an 'American Rifleman' cover in '98 or so (... and it had a representation of the Ti atom on the side!). I had to have a 696 (3" external hammer SS version), a properly made CA Bulldog, and the 296 - the latter since that A.R. article. In 1/03 I bought both - on the same day: $439 for the regular priced 696-1 and $349 for the 296 - which already had been on closeout for a while. BTW, that 296's price was less than half of it's then MSRP - little wonder it didn't sell, the low demands of the almost cult-like following of the .44 Special notwithstanding.

    IMG_3867-1.jpg

    The 3" hammered other AirLite-Ti version, the 396, was the last to be introduced - and was last available under the 396 Night Guard name, although the Ti cylinder was lost. My 296 still sees some carry - in cargo pants in a Mika's pocket holster. It's like a 642 - on steroids. My favorite ammo is the GA Arms 200gr Gold Dot loaded version shown. It's ballistically the same as the CCI Blazer version - barely breaks 800 fps from the 296's 2.5" barrel - but yields a new Starline brass case instead of a throw-away Al case - for about the same price.

    So, S&W has 'been there; done that'.

    Stainz
     
  17. JR47

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    It's kind of amusing to hear someone comparing a forum that has been in existence for only a few years to one that's been around a lot longer, and trying to draw some sort of conclusion from that.

    If THR had a pruning function, say of two years, there would be a heck of a lot fewer members here. Many people join, post a couple of times, and move on, never to be heard of again.

    THR is good fun. However, like most other large forums, it has developed it's own groups, and it's own biases. The good part is that it's pretty much all opinion, anyway. We all know about those opinions, too.

    If I'm looking for information on a specific brand, and model, I always look at the Boards dedicated to that brand. While I expect that they will be at least a little biased, they feature hands-on experience with new, and also rare, guns in the marque. I take it with a grain of salt, and not the Ibuprofen often required when the anecdotal experts arrive to down-rate everything on non-specific Boards.
     
  18. weregunner

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    And no one's ox was gored. Mine wasn't, and no there is not only one source for Taurus. Never said that. What is said is that you folks seem to think there is only one source.

    You and you only.

    Not necessarily THR or gun specific forums are ever the only other choice.

    I said I look at all the factors at the various gun forums, but where most of the info actually is found is by going to the specific forums. Goes for other people as well.

    Don't try to put words in the mouth or draw conclusions because of faulty fuzzy logic used by many of the respondents here or from the past.

    THR is fun, but there are quite a few who do not know me,never will, and are trying to pass judgment ,faulty at that, on a person.

    There are plenty of threads and posts in the archives where other brands are given by yours truly. ANd never has it been stated that the another forum is superior to another.

    What's being said is where most of the users congregate are where the info and data will be found. The general populations for other brands are the same way. They congregate at the gun specific forums.

    They might be members of other forums as well,large or small. Bring up the data that shows all those people congregate here.

    Springfield owners are going to rub shoulders with other Springfield users for the most part. Same for other brands,makes,and models. Or they'll rub shoulders with who ever they want.

    As far as opinions go like ears we all got them. Luckily the opnions are not fact.

    That makes those with no experience with a certain brand irrelevant.

    Data they have not,facts they have not. ;)
     
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  19. weregunner

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    Saw a query for a gun model that could have had valid and a lot of data from the actual owners in a neat package for the person who made the query.

    Found out he doesn't really want that data. Okay,fine.Why would anyone of the right mind and common sense tell someone that the package of data is not wanted even though the data is from the actual owners and their experience with it.
    "Wanna find out about Ford Pickups"
    "Okay,here's data from the Ford pickup forum".

    "Don' wan it!"

    "Why?"

    "It comes from Ford owners and they're biased."

    I can just see this. Mayonaise Clinic :

    "Want data for operating for lung cancer?"

    Respondent:" No, I'll go over to General Horsepistol and see if they have it. Too many docs here from your clinic here operate on lung cancer. They're biased because they operate on lung cancer.
    "Besides, General is bigger than Mayonaise is. "

    So what? Like it was said. There are plenty of people here... who come and go to other gun forums and are never seen again.

    I can point to a Keltec forum or forums and show that a lot of the people who know about them are there. That's where the source for most data is going to be with dealing with Keltec firearms. They are really there. Not a product of the imagination.

    Nor do I assume things about the brand or the people who own them.

    Same goes for Beretta. If I want to know about Beretta shotguns the Beretta forum dealing with those is a good place to go. So is here, but a majority of respondents and data are there with those people who own them. Foibles and operating characteristics that are not in the manuals are not something found at the commercial gun sites. You get that kind of thing from the individual owners.

    Yes, I'll get some feedback from some owners here. So take what is available. No problem. The majority of Beretta shotgun owners are at the Beretta forum. Not at this non specific gun forum or at any other non specific gun forum. So, you pool what you find out,sift out the wheat from the chaff. That's after collecting the data. Then you find out if it passes the smell test. Then one goes and finds actual examples of that gun. Inspect it closely. If it passes common sense and a checklist inspection of what to look for in a gun,no problem.

    If all available data from many sources (media, other people,etc.) check out then it's time to decide to buy or not.

    I think some these guys might be from Rio Lindo. Got to draw pictures and talk slow to them. Then do it all over again or it would have been seen the first time.
     
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  20. weregunner

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    Here it is and the OP has not responded to the people who have given him what he asked for.
     
  21. weregunner

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    This is not about THR overall. It is about the fact other places as well as here have good data and can be used as a reference.
     
  22. weregunner

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    By the way let it go for the record that I have picked up good data from here at times and added it to what was known.

    I thank THR for being here.
     
  23. weregunner

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    By the way this is supposed to be about the Taurus 445. That's what is supposed to be discussed.

    No one is helping the OP on that note.

    I did not see a plethora or overwhelming number of Taurus 445 owners pouring in here to help.

    A couple maybe.

    Nothing wrong with THR.

    The few guys who said there were a lot or plenty of them, where are they?

    None of us are that big and bad enough to scare off the actual owners.

    I actually used data from here to help buy my Beretta 85 and CZ83. Those respondents told it like it was.
     
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    wow, really?
     
  25. weregunner

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    Hey,it's tag team time. :)
     
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