...so I ordered the 3 inch defender model. Historically I haven't gotten along with the 3 inch model, neither fish nor fowl (despite the internet telling me it's the Goldilocks length). 3 inch talo 686 plus, 3 inch sp101 (a couple times) ...there are probably more. Oh, an old Rossi 3 inch m36 knock off. Too big for the pocket, on the belt I'd rather a 4 or 5 inch. Why did try again? I found a good deal for the present economy. It comes with night sights. I'm thinking car /travel general house gun use, maybe hiking (over the 4+ length barrels) ...long story short I can see the use and I talked myself into it! Does anyone know of any good holsters for the 3 inch 856 defender? If anyone is interested in range reports and follow up let me know and I can report back when it comes in. Thanks for all the feedback and advice.