Taurus Judge For The Wife to use??

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Profesional Defensive TRAINING, not by you. After that I'd look at some TRAINING. Followed by some more TRAINING.

I like revolvers but, semi-auto's have less recoil. If she had some TRAINING she should could handle either one. Let her develop some skills before you settle on a gun.

Don't forget long guns. These too, require Training.

Of course, we as men, are natural born shooters and hunters and lovers of women. We don't need any training!

If it's not a carry gun, don't go small. A mid to full size gun is easier to shoot well and handles recoil better. Why sacrifice these things, if you don't have to?

The Judge is novel. It would make an incredible snake gun...
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I have seen a few firearms advertised as "snake guns". The judge, a derringer, a 410 shotgun.

When in venomous snake country, I make it a point to make noise. The snakes will move away. Snakes will only usually strike when cornered or frightened.

Why shoot them? They make a big dent in the rodent population.

It seems to me, the time it would take to remove a "snake gun" from holster, and deploy it, one could simply move away from the reptile.

Just saying.,,,,,,
 
I agree with both of you. The only dangerous snakes in my part of the country, are courteous enough to rattle when you get to close. Since I will not be shooting any snakes... I guess, for me, The Judge is good for...?
 
I had her practice with my 9mm glock and she was making about 4 foot groups at maybe 10 yards.
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My wife shoots my autos like that. I believe it's just because she hates autos, it couldn't be due to the trainer ;) . After years of frustration on both our parts I recently handed her a 4" 38spcl, the spread went to 12-14 inches on the first cylinder and she ENJOYED it (yes it was SA shooting we are now working on DA).

just a thought
 
My wife took my 4 inch S&W 681 away from me when I put Crimson Trace grips on it. Groups are tiny with 125 grain SJHP Remington +P .38s. Luckily, I have two K-frames and a J-frame to ease the loss.

OTOH, my brother has a 3 inch UltraLite Judge that he just loves. It isn't his primary carry, but it rides in his truck on road trips. His primary carry is a Kimber Pro Carry .45.

ECS
 
Guillermo said:
one does not need to own a blunderbuss to know that it is not an effective weapon beyond a very short range.
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And for SD, it does not need to be. Well over 98% of SD shootings take place at 10 FEET or less.

In fact, the "short range" is an ADVANTAGE in an SD shooting, as your errant leads (for which you are liable) effectiveness will dissipate quickly with distance.
 
An understanding of physics? At under 10 feet, in a poorly lit circumstance, against an unarmored assailant, facing you. Oh, yeah, that requires a degree in physics to overcome.

The idea that a CCW holder will engage at more than 10 yards is the stuff of a D.A.s wet dreams. Like with the snake, if you're that far away, you can avoid it.

How so many people manage to drag 25 yards, or further, into a possible CCW encounter only does us a disservice.

At 7-10 feet, even .410 bird shot can be easily lethal. After all, how far away was the vice president when he put down one of his own while bird-hunting? Much more than 7-10 feet. So much for using "physics" to "prove" that the load doesn't work.
 
7-10 feet from a Judge has very little penetration in test after test

If it was all I had I would aim for the face and pray for blindness
 
The point being made is that at 7 to 10 feet (or 7-10 yards), any centerfire service revolver cartridge is a far better option than 410 birdshot, far better odds of success.
If you are going to miss at that distance, a pretend shotgun is going to do nothing of value for you re: "devastating power" (Taurus' sales pitch phrase) or shot spread pattern

but you could just remove da' Judge barrel yourself maybe, to enhance it's "hallway clearing" devastation
just in case you are ever confronted by an enraged watermelon
 
as commercial growers genetically manipulate food this is a possibility.

The nice thing is that the pellets would not overpenetrate and endanger any fruit or veggies than might be behind the enraged watermelon.
 
Guillermo said:
7-10 feet from a Judge has very little penetration in test after test

If it was all I had I would aim for the face and pray for blindness
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I dunno ... mine put buckshot clean through 2 back to back 2x6's at that distance ... seemed like plenty enough penetration to me.
 
When in venomous snake country, I make it a point to make noise. The snakes will move away. Snakes will only usually strike when cornered or frightened.

Why shoot them? They make a big dent in the rodent population.
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Make noise? ROFLMAO! You ever even SEEN a rattler? You can make all kinds of noise and still get hit. I've been hit and I was being petty noisy at the time. I'm not THAT stupid, though, own and wear snake boots, cheaper and far more effective snake protection than any firearm.

I've shot and fried up a few. I don't just shoot 'em for the spite, not phobic or anything. If they're in my yard, a garden hoe works great and isn't a class C misdemeanor to use.
 
Make noise? ROFLMAO! You ever even SEEN a rattler?
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YES

I worked in The Sonoran Desert area for years. I was the ramrod on a crew installing OSP for the local telco. You name it, we saw it.
The only critters that were fatalities were the scorpions.

To avoid an internet pissing contest, let me post the facts.

"When in the wilderness, treading heavily creates ground vibrations and noise, which will often cause snakes to flee from the area. However, this generally only applies to North America as some larger and more aggressive snakes in other parts of the world, such as king cobras[22] and black mambas,[23] will protect their territories. When dealing with direct encounters it is best to remain silent and motionless. If the snake has not yet fled it is important to step away slowly and cautiously." - from wikipedia listed below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakebite

http://www.snakesofarizona.com/venomous.htm

I wonder why Taurus hasn't made a scorpion gun yet. IMHO, they are a bigger threat to people in AZ then any snake.
 
You don't know? Why the judge is a death ray with its .410!

Amazing, that in some circles, a regular .410 shotgun is considered a novelty gun.

You will see very few, if any .410 shotguns in duck blinds.

You will see very few, if any .410's in the shotgun deer zones.

Nothing at all wrong with the .45 Colt round when fired through a properly rifled pistol barrel. A SAA comes to mind.

IMHO, this pistol is not for use beyond five feet. Most self defense shootings occur within 21 feet. So, I concede, this is a anti car jack gun. However, where to you store it?
 
"When in the wilderness, treading heavily creates ground vibrations and noise, which will often cause snakes to flee from the area. However, this generally only applies to North America as some larger and more aggressive snakes in other parts of the world, such as king cobras[22] and black mambas,[23] will protect their territories. When dealing with direct encounters it is best to remain silent and motionless. If the snake has not yet fled it is important to step away slowly and cautiously." - from wikipedia listed below.
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Well, ain't no rocks and it's usually wet and muddy on my place. I guess stomp sounds don't travel in grass, mud, and water, eh? I just wear snake boots, best investment against snakes. I've walked right by and been hit by a couple of snakes. The boots work. Didn't shoot 'em. I mean, there's a bazillion of 'em, ain't like you're going to thin 'em out or anything. I've actually been CHASED by water snakes, which are often mistaken for moccasins which we have a lot of. I've never had a moccasin chase me, though they have a rep for it.
 
.22 Mag Double Action Revolver.

She is obviously scared of the more powerful cartridges, and needs some confidence more than she needs a Taurus Judge.

Get her shooting a .22 LR or .22 Magnum revolver. NOW!

Or eve better a 18.5" 20 gauge with #3 Buckshot. Teach her to shoot that. Leave the handguns alone until you can get a .22 for her to use for practice.
 
no shortage of rattlers in either Texas or south Georg1a
the 'McGunner Method' works for me
(if it don't, just throw a watermelon on 'em !)

410s is for wabbits and doves and 'Ritz cracker clays'
love 'em though, 410s, snubbies not, only got four of 'em, non-snubbie flavor, best shot from your shoulder
(well, for Texas jackwabbits, 454 Casull or 8 gauge mebbe)

Scorpion Gun... love it.. ROFLMAO !
even money sez Taurus will introduce the Taurus Scorpion before end-of-year
or they could just call it the "da' Scorpion Stigma"
in 25 caliber, with new & improved 25 caliber magnum cartridges, and 25 caliber mini-frisbee personal De-fense loads for 'da-gun by Federal.. shotshells for bugs only
the next 'Big Thing', ought sell like hot cakes in Death Valley
"make my day... bug !"

PS
ought not laugh too loud, those Texas scorpions will run you right out of your own house in Texas
and those Texas tarantulas will stop traffic on the highway - but it don't take a whole lot of shot penetration to squish 'em, just shoot for COM, CNS hits not required :D
 
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Got to wonder why some spend so much time repeating their opinion on a Judge when all they have to say is I don't like them and won't own one.

I do like mine and it is in my wife's console. Enough said.
 
just because it is harder to not poke fun at some things than others, I think
somewhat related to "new" (not).."different" (not).." improved" (not), much less "better than" X, Y, or Z (not)
the watermelon commercial is much to blame for our overblown silliness, it is (cutesy 'names' don't help none either)

But if your wife is happy with it, and you are happy with your wife, you ought not let us jokesters matter.. you already have all the really important stuff real well covered, you do
Comfort and Confidence always were two of the top four that matter most in shooting
and if she is four for four (Competence and Consistency) she has 99% of us fools beat right out of the gate
(I would bet on her vs 85% of the people I see at local range, no matter what they have in hand)

sleep well

PS
we be just as harsh on the da' Jubernator, you know, if it matters ;)
it's like dangling raw meat in front of a junkyard dawg... nobody ever said junkyard dawg was smart
 
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