I do not get all the hate, though? Badmouth all you like, Taurus is laughing all the way to the bank. People do buy these and every person I have met or know that owns a judge loves theirs. I was tempted mighty fiercely myself after messing around with my buddies 3" judge. Someone mentioned bad business practice to release a firearm with no current manufacturer loading for it? Is it bad practice or jump starting their own agenda? At least 2 of the big names will be loading specialty buckshot, and possibly slug rounds for the 28 gauge monster. I personally think that's good practice and stimulation of the guns and ammo industry. Any manufacturer that makes new and interesting things to keep offering us MORE choice in the gun realm should be thanked, not shunned. And lo and behold, S&W is now copying Taurus designs? I think that says the Judge was a good idea.