Taurus TX22 magazine issues.

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  1. mountaindrew

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    Need to start be saying that I love the TX 22. It is a perfect trainer for my various plastic service pistols, with a similar form factor and a 16rd magazine capacity. It is accurate, and for the most part, reliable.

    All of the reliability issues are in the magazines. They are a double stack design, and the problem is the rounds bind in the body. When I am loading them, even with the followers pulled all the way down, with no contact at all, the rounds stick to the sides of the mag and require force to load. The mag spring I thing just doesn't have enough strength to push against the friction of the rounds binding against the walls of the mag. I've never seen anything like this. I'm not sure if my mags are out of spec or if there is some magic lube I can use. Normal gun oil doesn't seem to work.

    The most frequent malfunctions are nose dives when the second round hasn't pushed the first one far enough up to clear the magazine, or when the mag actually closes on no round at all because none popped up in time.
     
  2. Havok7416
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    I also own a TX22 and have 4 mags for it. It sounds like your mag(s) are slightly crushed in at the "waist". None of my TX22 mags do this but I did have some 1911 mags that did and that was the issue.

    I actually just bought some mag extensions that bump capacity up by 5 rounds. I waited until I had cycled the mags enough to ensure it wasn't wasted money.
     
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    I have two TX22s and ten mags between them. It's quite rare for either of them to malfunction.

    The only magazine issue I experience is the same problem that can happen with any 22.. If a round doesn't stagger correctly in the mag when loaded - the rest will load incorrectly (flat). Each round has to sit on top of the round below it at the opposite angle.

    If it happens, I pull the follower down a little (not all the way) and give the magazine a little up and down shake to get the rounds to stack correctly. It happens with my M&P15-22, G44 - I've learned that I have to watch the rounds as they go in to ensure the load properly.

    Don't use gun oil in the magazines, it just attracts more particles inside and that will cause problems.

    Hope this helps, you could always buy another mag and see what happens. If a new mag functions correctly, a call to Taurus to replace the defective mags is in order. As I mentioned, I have 10 of them and all 10 work. Hope this helps, and keep us updated!
     
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  4. wally

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    I've yet to have a malfunction of any kind with my TX22 (including failure to fire using the same bulk pack ammo that usually gives 4 or 5 per brick in my Ruger and Buckmark) and I have yet to clean it other than wipe it down and put a couple of drops of Break-Free CLP on the moving bits.

    I usually run 112 rounds per outing (7 16-round mags), I try to get out once a week and I've had the gun about 10 months (got it at the last pre-Covid gun show we had), I didn't do the math, but that is a lot of rounds. No other 22lr pistol has come close to this level or reliability for me. It ain't my most accurate, but its set a level of reliability I'd have thought impossible with a .22lr pistol.

    Are you using the little loading tool that should have came with your TX22? It is essential.

    I was really down on Taurus after their Millennium recall debacle, but the G2C they sent me in exchange has been a great little pistol, and my TX22 has really impressed me!
     
  5. jwamplerusa

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    I had minor may issues until I changed my loading procedure.

    I know looks a single round at a time with the follower manually pulled down so that the round just slipped in. I then poison the follower up and back down before paying the next round.

    I found the above technique aligned the rounds within the mag, and my mag induced malfunctions ceased.
     
  6. 12Bravo20

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    It is a common problem with 22lr magazines. I have even had issues with my Glock G44 mags if I get in too big of a hurry loading them. And you really have to pay attention when loading the quad stack Kel-Tec CP33 magazines. But when the magazines are loaded correctly I haven't had any issues out of either pistol.
     
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    Wally said; "Are you using the little loading tool that should have came with your TX22? It is essential."

    Loading tool?? I didn't know there was such a thing. Didn't get one with my TX22. I've not had any loading or feeding problems, so essential may be too strong a word. I just pull the follower down by the little button on the side and fed rounds in one by one. Easy. I feed 15 rounds because that's how the ammo comes sorted.
     
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    I use the Lakeline loader. It's like $12. It makes things a lot easier. You can pull the the tab buts its small. After loading 8 mags my finger nails start to hurt
     
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  9. mountaindrew

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    UPDATE: I have found and fixed the issue. Havok7416 was correct. As I sighted don't the central ridge of the magazine body I could see that they were slightly squeezed inward in the middle. I determined that a standard wooden pencil was exactly the right thickness, after disassembling the magazines, I carefully slid the pencil all the way into the magazine to spread it open evenly. After I got it in place straight, center on the ridge. I then heated the magazines with a heat gun. Not enough to melt or soften the plastic, just enough to make them too hot to comfortably hold. I then let them cool down so they would "take a set." Afterwards I could look down the ridge and they appeared straight. Took the gun out this morning, and not only did the mags load easier, with no resistance, but the gun made it through 200 rounds with exactly one failure to feed. And that's in the hands of my wife, who is a beginner! So I am very happy, and once again satisfied with my Taurus.
     
  10. Havok7416
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    Perfect. Now all you need are the Tandemkross +5 mag extensions!
     
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  11. wally

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    Why? They seem to cost as much as a complete 16 round magazine.

    Edit, mis-read the website where I found them, price was for a 2-pack, but still you are only getting ten extra rounds added to a pair of your magazines, as opposed to a third 16-round magazine for about the same money.
     
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    It makes for less reloading. I have 4 mags so that makes up over 1 whole extra magazine worth.
     
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  13. mountaindrew

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    Actually, I prefer the 15 rds, in fact a usually load 15 because that mirrors the most common 9mm mag capacity, which is what Bought this gun for, as a surrogate to practice with to save money and precious, precious ammo. I want to make my practice realistic.
     
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    Taurus makes a 16-rd and a 10-rd version of their magazine. How many rounds you put in is up to you.

    One of my 9mm guns actually holds 22 rounds so the TX22 mag extensions actually help me practice with that gun.
     
  15. Tmos

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    I have the TX22 Competition with three magazines. I too was having feeding issues and tried to follow all the advice given but still had FTF problems. I noticed an abrasion on the shells (non jacketed) that didn't feed leading me to think the shell was catching on the magazine when being fed into the chamber. I fixed my problem by using a rattail file and made a slight beveled edge on the front edge of the magazine where the shell feeds over. Problem solved for me, few hundred rounds since and no FTF's.
     
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    When I got my TX22 I learned that 22 rimlock was a thing if I didn't load carefully. I also took my mags apart and lightly sanded smooth the inside of the tubes where molding lines were. Works well after that, with minimags and aguila, but I did not have a lot of success with "bucket of bullets". I remember them hanging on the front of the magazine tube which distorted the bullets during feeding. I might take one magazine and try out Tmos's rattail file idea, see if it lets the cheap stuff feed better. Cheap stuff being what used to be cheap, anyway :)
     
  17. BreechFace

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    I think a common problem when loading magazines and especially is the case with rimmed cartridges such as the 22lr one should not pull down the follower any more than necessary to facilitate the individual round being loaded into the magazine. I think far too many people think they can just pull the follower down and drop multiple cartridges in without the follower controlling the correct stacking.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. This IS the biggest problem with rimfire magazines. And pulling the follower down farther than needed can and will lead to rim lock.
     
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  19. mountaindrew

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    I dealt with this issue exactly, and I have a fix- Ill do a walk through. both my mags had this problem.
    The problem is the sides of the mag bow inwards and are tight in the middle. they need to be spread back out.
    First, disassemble the mags. Pretty simple. look down the inside and you can see the bowing inward.
    Second, get a standard yellow hexagonal pencil. I found that to be exactly the right size.
    Third, drive the pencil into the magazine lengthwise, lined up with the flat ridge parallel with the slider groove, right in the center of the mag.
    Third, get a heat gun and heat the magazine up. I have no way to quantify this, but it needs to be hot enough to slightly soften the plastic without melting it at all. Mine did stary to smell like hot plastic. if it gets shiny, that's too hot, back off. Start slow, and if it doesn't work, go a little hotter.

    When you are done, you will pull the pencil out and be able to look down the mag sides, inside, and see them totally straight, no bow inward.

    Reassemble, and the problem is solved.
     
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