Taurus TX22

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I picked one up yesterday. Took it to the range today. Seems to operate well. I didn't have a lot of time [other people went along today and were shooting other things], but the first 15 rounds were very good. At 7 yards, after the first shot was off of my 2" square target, the rest were on, and I eventually made a jagged oblong hole about an inch long. I consider that a win as for as accuracy goes, being my first magazine. I really like the way it feels when shooting, and the trigger is very nice.

I looked at the bore of my barrel and did notice a bit of the "chatter marks" about from the breach till about half way down the barrel. The rest of the groves, to the end of the barrel, seem okay.

This is a very cheap pistol. Mine was under $300, shipped, and including the $20 FFL charge. So I wouldn't expect the best quality, but for the price, I am glad I got one.
 
Shot a steel challenge match with mine yesterday. The gun only had one bobble on the last stage with the last mag which was quite convenient. The only other handgun shooter with a faster overall time was shooting an optic rimfire. I was quite pleased considering I have never shot a match with the Taurus and I was shooting iron sights.
 
Shot a steel challenge match with mine yesterday. The gun only had one bobble on the last stage with the last mag which was quite convenient. The only other handgun shooter with a faster overall time was shooting an optic rimfire. I was quite pleased considering I have never shot a match with the Taurus and I was shooting iron sights.
You can run your next match with an optic on your TX22 and smoke that guy: https://lakelinellc.com/shop/mounti...fire-etc-sights-on-taurus-millennium-pistols/

Same website has a red dot (it's actually a GREEN dot) for $43. I just ordered the adaptor plate and red dot for my TX22. Hopefully I'll have a report up on it soon!
 
Another person has issues with Taurus TX22 barrel.

Whatever. I hear of issues with kimbers, glocks that throw brass in your face, springfield xd and cz pistols that break firing pin/striker retaining pins if you dry fire. I could go on. Yes there are probably some bad barrels out there. With my TX22 all I shoot is plated bullets and leading hasn't been a problem.
 
I shot plated Winchester .22LR rounds through the first barrel, and it had heavy lead deposits at the end of the second magazine (32 rounds). The second barrel had heavy lead deposits after the 32nd round as well. The third barrel has the same horrible chattering in the bore as the first two barrels, of which I have posted images previously in this thread. This is not hearing an issue with the TX22’s bore; this is evidence of an issue with the TX22’s bore. With luck, I will shoot the third barrel tomorrow and will report here. I think that the probability of three barrels, all poorly rifled, on a pistol bought in May 2019, indicates that there is a problem at Taurus. Other than for poor quality control, I cannot think of a reason for letting these barrels out of the factory. This is a simple visual inspection: batch inspection, by quality control, should have caught the problem.

As for Kimber, for the past three NRA Annual Conventions, I have been a firearm examiner, ensuring that exhibit firearms are deactivated (will not fire a round). Kimber's quality leaves much desired, for the listed MSRP.

As a Glock Advanced Armorer, brass can fly back onto the shooter, when the pistol is held poorly, which is usually the case, or when a shooter takes a .40 S&W Glock and sticks a 9mm barrel on it (I have seen that), or converts a .357 Sig Glock to a .40 S&W and vice versa. Firearm owners do many foolish things with firearms: firearms are not Legos or erector sets.

As for broken firing pins, the energy of a firing pin is designed to sufficiently indent a primer with enough poundage and distance to ignite the primer. When a firing pin does not hit a primer, the energy goes somewhere else, and, usually, back into the firing pin when it does hit the inside of the bolt, stops, or barrel (rimfire). Thus, they break when dry firing, or damage something else. Firing pins, for the most part, are not designed to be repeatedly dry fired. Though many firing pins can take the punishment, continued dry firing is seldom recommended.

Since I am on a soapbox, Remington lost my business. I sold my Rem 700 rifles, due to the receivers: not square, threads cut off center, threads cut slanted to the center, threads cut with varying depth, triggers breaking. I bought a Rem 783, in .223 Rem. It was advertised to have a 1:9 twist barrel. It had a 1:14 twist barrel on it, which is the advertised barrel twist for the 22-250 rifle. When I called Remington customer service about this, the man stated, “You could shoot lighter bullets”. Instead of address the issue of correcting a factory error, the first thing he offered was that I could shoot lighter bullets. I sent it back, and it came back with the correct twist barrel, and it shot extremely well, but would not eject spent cases from the receiver. The cases would be pulled from the chamber, and then dropped on top of the magazine. After the FOURTH extractor, it reliably threw spent brass. I have since sold the rifle, explaining the problems that this rifle has had. I am done with Remington.

A company either has high quality standards, or it does not.
 
For what its worth I had a Ruger with a similar looking barrel but it was very accurate... for about 50 rounds. I sold it after ruger sent it back stating it was normal.

Clearly you arent going to get a good barrel. I would pick one and lap it until its damn near smooth bore. I bet it will still be accurate enough and leading will subside.

Its the nature of the beast for mass production/low cost.
 
I shot my THIRD TX22 barrel today. It deposits lead by the end of the second magazine (32 rounds). I shot Eley Sport, T22, Winchester 40 grain jacketed/plated, and Wolf Extra Match. I cleaned the bore after each brand, which was a laborious chore. Four types of ammunition, TX22 bore deposited lead with all brands, with the same results in the photos below.. The other two barrels did the same. I will contact Taurus again. At some point soon, I will want a refund. The TX22 design is very good. The execution of the bore is abominable, and the failed QC needs to be replaced by competent personnel.
Third barrel-1.JPG Third barrel-2.JPG Third barrel-3.JPG Third barrel-1.JPG Third barrel-2.JPG Third barrel-3.JPG Third barrel-4.JPG Third barrel-5.JPG Third barrel-6.JPG
 
I wonder how many of you guys checked the inside of the slide where the recoil assembly is housed. Is the end of the recoil assembly gouging the aluminum? If it is it's only a matter of time before you experience a cracked slide.
 
I wonder how many of you guys checked the inside of the slide where the recoil assembly is housed. Is the end of the recoil assembly gouging the aluminum? If it is it's only a matter of time before you experience a cracked slide.

Mine is starting to show the same wear pattern.
 
atlantafireman, you sir have the patients of a saint. I would have hurled that gun into a river by now. Am afraid that your eventually going to get the barrel problem solved only to end up with the recoil slide wear problem.
 
I could sell it, and take a huge loss. I bought it last May, after handling and inspecting it at the NRA annual meeting. This was before the price fell, and long before the rebate. I paid over $330 for mine, before sales tax. For the design and the features, I felt that was a fair price, but that was before my three barrels, the chambers of which appear to have been rifled with a mill bastard file and a brick. The design is great: points naturally; trigger reach is good (as I have small hands that fit a SAA, 1911, and Hi Power…and this is another thing, if the industry wants more women to shoot, then design firearms that FIT smaller hands); good trigger pull (for a striker); does NOT have that blade trigger safety exposed (like every other pistol whose designers borrowed from Glock); fires from a fixed barrel position, and the barrel easily removes during disassembly; and it holds 16 22LR rounds. The high capacity is a feature NOT seen in many other 22LR pistols, and, IMHO, this is where manufacturers have fallen short: use that room in the grip to hold ammunition! The TX22 has a good design and features; the execution of that design is lacking in the horribly chatters bores, and now the recoil slide wear. I doubt that I will ever get this problem fixed, as I have not heard from Taurus for the past three business days concerning this latest barrel, with photos. That is OK, as I do not have to buy another Taurus pistol.

Hey, all you boys over at Glock, IN AUSTRIA where you make decisions for the U.S. market, when are you going to have a 22LR high capacity pistol? I have about 10 years left, and would like to enjoy it before I die…or before the Bolsheviks get elected.
 
I was under the impression that Taurus already knows about and fixed the barrel issue. The issue supposedly involved a batch of out sourced barrels. I can see if I can find the thread I saw about it.... Going forward, this should not be anything anyone has to worry about. Members on the Taurus forum stated that they talk to Taurus CS, and they confirmed the issue has been resolved.
 
I could sell it, and take a huge loss. I bought it last May, after handling and inspecting it at the NRA annual meeting. This was before the price fell, and long before the rebate. I paid over $330 for mine, before sales tax. For the design and the features, I felt that was a fair price, but that was before my three barrels, the chambers of which appear to have been rifled with a mill bastard file and a brick. The design is great: points naturally; trigger reach is good (as I have small hands that fit a SAA, 1911, and Hi Power…and this is another thing, if the industry wants more women to shoot, then design firearms that FIT smaller hands); good trigger pull (for a striker); does NOT have that blade trigger safety exposed (like every other pistol whose designers borrowed from Glock); fires from a fixed barrel position, and the barrel easily removes during disassembly; and it holds 16 22LR rounds. The high capacity is a feature NOT seen in many other 22LR pistols, and, IMHO, this is where manufacturers have fallen short: use that room in the grip to hold ammunition! The TX22 has a good design and features; the execution of that design is lacking in the horribly chatters bores, and now the recoil slide wear. I doubt that I will ever get this problem fixed, as I have not heard from Taurus for the past three business days concerning this latest barrel, with photos. That is OK, as I do not have to buy another Taurus pistol.

Hey, all you boys over at Glock, IN AUSTRIA where you make decisions for the U.S. market, when are you going to have a 22LR high capacity pistol? I have about 10 years left, and would like to enjoy it before I die…or before the Bolsheviks get elected.
I just read this... Did they say what was going on and why the barrel was having these issues?
 
Taurus apologized for the inconvenience, but did not state how or why this happened. My THIRD barrel arrived 9/13/2019. Unless I got the only bad barrel remaining, the problem is still a problem.

I am really looking forward to April 16, when I will get to talk face-to-face with Taurus representatives.
 
I believe that Taurus is one of the sweetest talking gun companies out there, all talk no action. I also believe that they don't give a hoot about their consumers. It seems to me that their mind set is that if they throw 10 guns against the wall and 7 stick that's acceptable. I believe that they're banking on most of their customers not putting any large round counts through their firearms. Taurus will never get a nickel of my money again, I got snookered once, I'm old enough and with age. wise enough not to get snookered twice. Way to many better choices out there concerning firearms.
 
I believe that Taurus is one of the sweetest talking gun companies out there, all talk no action. I also believe that they don't give a hoot about their consumers. It seems to me that their mind set is that if they throw 10 guns against the wall and 7 stick that's acceptable. I believe that they're banking on most of their customers not putting any large round counts through their firearms. Taurus will never get a nickel of my money again, I got snookered once, I'm old enough and with age. wise enough not to get snookered twice. Way to many better choices out there concerning firearms.

Agreed.

As of this writing, I have received NO COMMUNICATIONS regarding this THIRD bad barrel. In one of my emails, I wrote, “Please share these photos with the Quality Control Manager and CEO. No excuse exists for accepting or producing parts of inferior quality.” Maybe I am not supposed to state the obvious, let alone post photos of such? Or, was it that I asked for a full refund, and included a pdf of my sales receipt?

I agree that most firearm owners do not fire large round counts. Low round counts are no excuse for a company to produce inferior quality.

I got snookered too. From here on, prior to purchasing another firearm, I will closely inspect the barrel, possibly use my handheld bore scope.

A company either has quality, or it doesn’t.

As I wrote previously, the TX22 has a good design and many good features, but the THREE barrels I’ve had all deposit lead, as shown in the posted photos. The frame wear shown, in another post, is also a concern.
 
I got my optic and mounting plate installed. It's already turning into a great buy. It really helps reacquire the target more quickly. 20190925_111444.jpg 20190920_190721.jpg
 
FOURTH barrel arrived. Upon visual inspection, I noted lines running longitudinally down the barrel both in the lands and grooves. However, these lines were minimal, though they should NOT have been there in a properly made barrel. Looking from the chamber, I noted a dark line at 9:00, on a land, just as the rifling started. This FOUTH barrel is much better than the previous THREE barrels in visual appearance. The other THREE barrels had noted chattering, and appeared to have been rifled with a mill bastard file and a brick. This FOURTH barrel appeared to have more promise than the others. 10/14/2019: went to the range with 100 rounds of Winchester Super-X (round nose, copper plated) and 300 rounds of CCI Mini Mags (36 grain hollow point, copper plated). I loaded the two magazines with 15 rounds each of Winchester Super-X. After the first 30 rounds, the FOURTH barrel started to deposit lead. Accuracy was right on the mark. Lead depositing was disappointing, but not unexpected. I proceeded to shoot the remaining 70 rounds of Winchester Super-X. As round count increased, accuracy decreased. At the end of 100 rounds, this FOURTH barrel looked just like the other THREE previous barrels with lead deposits, with the exception that this barrel had three pronounced lead rings. The muzzle appeared as though it was growing a lead pedaled flower. I decided that if this barrel was going to be junk, I was just going to shoot the rest of the ammunition, and enjoy missing the target (6” plate at 20 yards). I can only suspect that the steel plate, and paint thereon, enjoyed being left alone. Toward the end of 200 rounds, I noted stinging on my forearms. I shot the pistol on white paper at close range. Black splattering was noted: see image below. The black splattering is NOT unburnt powder; it is lead fragments. I kept shooting. Around the 250-270 round mark, my forearms stopped stinging, and to my surprise, started hitting the steel plate again. At 300 arounds, total, I inspected the bore. The above mentioned lead deposits had DECREASED. Somehow, the barrel was releasing the buildup: this I had never seen before in a barrel, and I have been shooting since I was 5 years old (55 years). At the end of the last 100 rounds (400 rounds total), the barrel had minimal, though noted, fouling; one was a lead sliver that I recovered with a cotton swab. I have no explanation for leading and de-leading, other than ammunition or demonic possession. I have used Winchester Super-X for years, in my other .22LR firearms, and never experienced any issues, with this lot number. Upon returning home, I ran a dry .223 bronze brush through the bore five times (in and out being one time), and NO deposits or fouling remained. And, that mark at 9:00 was minimal. I cleaned the pistol, oiled where appropriate, and coated the bore with homemade Ed’s Red. This Saturday, I hope to take it back to the range again. This FOURTH barrel is perplexing. If it works fine this Saturday, then the problem is remedied. If not, well, then it aint.
Bbl #4, lead splatter, 10-14-2019.JPG
 
>>I have contacted Taurus and the label for a “fix” is on its way the wait they say is 10-12 weeks.<<

Aaaaand, that's all I needed to hear!
 
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