taurus vs charter arms

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i am looking for a short barrel 22 revolver, such as taurus 94...an intro gun for the wife and daughter...it seems taurus da trigger is a hit or miss deal....any one have input about charter arms or other manufactors....i don't want to go the price way for a s&w, even for a used one....i would like dependable,inexpensive and new....gary
 
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While I certainly do agree with this sentiment,if given the choice between the two guns listed,I'll take the Taurus. I have examples of both and like them both but the Taurus is a better gun,qualitywise.
 
I also have some of both, I would be hard pressed to pick one over the other. They have different features that accomplish the same thing in slightly different ways, just like S&W, Colt, Ruger or any other brand. There are "lemons" in every brand name. Pick the one that fits your requirements best.
 
I have a taurus and charter arms both centerfire and rimfire. Flip a coin. The taurus will look better but cost more. The trigger pull on most any 22 revolver will be a bit heavier than centerfires but thats needed for reliable fireing of rounds. When my youngest daughter desided she was ready to learn to shot my model 94 was the only .22 revolver i had. I put a wolff lightend hammer spring in it for my 38 sp taurus and found a soft aluminum blaser 22's that fired somewhat reliably and that was her handgun to learn with. That was many years ago. Stil got it but with the heavier than heck DA pull.
 
While I don't own a Taurus 22, I do own, between my dad and myself, 6 Tauruses, and the only issue we had was a crappily huge double action only trigger pull on his 1st gen Millenium, which has been to Taurus, got fixed, sent back, and is somewhat improved.

People like to talk trash about guns they never have owned, used, held, or even seen in person.
 
Charter Arms reportedly has very good customer service, and the impression I get is that their older pistols are the ones more likely to have problems.

American made, too.
 
I have a taurus :D but it's a pistol not a revolver , pt111 , have been carrying it concealed for 6 years now , got me out of two tight spots , without even pulling the trigger :cool: lucky me. I feed it all types of ammo , shoot with it regularly and I don't always have the time to keep it as clean as I should , but it goes bang when I pull the trigger and after about a 1000 rounds it has never jammed. except once and that I must admit was due to ammo that was not properly loaded. personally I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
 
You should have good luck with either when you are looking for entry level revolvers. Both (all) makers have their share of lemons but if you buy a new one instead of a used one chances are you'll be happy. CA had some QC issues when it changed hands in the 90s. The newest generation seem to be just fine. Taurus has their lovers and bashers but we're talking entry level, not super high quality. See which one fits their hand best or feels most comfortable to them and go that route. Don't let internet hype scare you off of either one.
 
Cylinder on my CA was really loose. It was a .38, I sold it. I've also had issues with Taurus 85. My other Taurus .357 is solid, and my pt145 is amazing.

I'd go with Taurus.
 
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I would search out a Charter from the 70s in excellent condition.
i have personally found a few and they are very functional revolvers and the quality is pretty good. they did make a 22 snub.
not saying dont buy a taurus.
for the price i been picking them up for its more than worth it.
no experience with the newer ones. if your in south florida i can direct you to a like new 22 snub CA sitting in a pawn shop i wanted but ran out of excuses to buy it.
and its one of the few items you can still get that is/was Made in USA
good luck
 
If you can find one it's hard to beat an old High Standard .22 revolver. Love my JCHiggens .22LR snub from them. Looks every day of it's 50+ years but goes bang every time and has 9 shots instead of 6, 7, or 8 like a lot of the newer stuff has.
 
A new Taurus has a lifetime guarantee. Not so with Charter Arms, unless they've changed their policy.

I've sent my Taurus in with free shipping, and gotten it back in a week, fixed and cleaned. And that's if you even have to send it in. Most don't have to.
 
I recently bought a Taurus 94 4". (As I posted on that forum) It had the following issues; 1. Cylinder lockup was inconsistent. 2. Shells were virtually impossible to extract - they expand slightly and stick in the cylinder. You have to use a cleaning rod to ram each one out. Even then you'll think you're going to knock the gun apart trying to get them out. 3. Very bad leading. I kept adjusting the sights after 100 rounds or so only to find that it was impossible to keep it on target. Barrel leading, forcing cone, you name it - lead everywhere. 4. The trigger was atrocious - hard, mushy, a real finger-killer.

That said; it was cheap and went bang every time.
 
Charter Arms has an excellent life time warranty. I bought an early model Undercover at a gun show. I bent the ejection rod by mistake. they fixed it free and went through the gun to insure reliability. I have bought 3 new CA revolvers since. They are all reliable and accurate (a new Undercover, a 357 Mag Pug with ported barrel and a 357 Target Mag Pug).
 
I recently bought a Taurus 94 4". (As I posted on that forum) It had the following issues; 1. Cylinder lockup was inconsistent. 2. Shells were virtually impossible to extract - they expand slightly and stick in the cylinder. You have to use a cleaning rod to ram each one out. Even then you'll think you're going to knock the gun apart trying to get them out. 3. Very bad leading. I kept adjusting the sights after 100 rounds or so only to find that it was impossible to keep it on target. Barrel leading, forcing cone, you name it - lead everywhere. 4. The trigger was atrocious - hard, mushy, a real finger-killer.

That said; it was cheap and went bang every time.
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For every good review of a Taurus firearm, there is at least one like the above. 50/50 quality control just doesn't cut it for me.
 
I've onwed .38 caliber versions of both. I still have my M85SSUL, not my under cover. It was pretty crappy. Sold it at a gun show at a loss and don't lament that at all. Taurus makes some quality stuff and I've yet to fire one that wasn't unbelievably accurate. Yes, the .22s have a stiff DA, but it ain't like it's going to be fired much in DA if I owned it. Only .22 I'll carry for defense is my NAA mini and that's just a deep cover back up. I do occasionally carry a .22 mag Black Widow when I need discrete concealment and the threat level is low.
 
I recently bought a Taurus 94 4". (As I posted on that forum) It had the following issues; 1. Cylinder lockup was inconsistent. 2. Shells were virtually impossible to extract - they expand slightly and stick in the cylinder. You have to use a cleaning rod to ram each one out. Even then you'll think you're going to knock the gun apart trying to get them out. 3. Very bad leading. I kept adjusting the sights after 100 rounds or so only to find that it was impossible to keep it on target. Barrel leading, forcing cone, you name it - lead everywhere. 4. The trigger was atrocious - hard, mushy, a real finger-killer.
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Hone the cylinders,clean it and switch to jacketed bullets.
For every good review of a Taurus firearm, there is at least one like the above.
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Well,I've owned six Taurus revolvers and every one was functionally flawless so I guess I'm WAY ahead of the curve.
 
The OP asked about choosing between Taurus and Charter .22 revolvers.

My experience is that I'm proud of my Taurus 94 and I intend to keep it. Bought it used and it is a slick little .22. DA trigger pull is tough, but that's the way they are. Why buy one and expect anything different?

I had a Charter .22, (a few months ago) with four inch barrel. This was absolutely the worse firearm I've ever purchased. I expected a battle, but the LGS refunded my money.

The Taurus and the Charter Arms have 4" barrels. I recommend the Taurus 94 over Charter Arms.
 
This question is like asking which STD you'd prefer. :evil: Whatever the end result is, you don't want one.

Seriously, both are craptastic revolvers where I'd put Taurus slightly ahead of Charter Arms simply for the fact that I've seen some Taurus revolvers that don't have issues. Seen too many Charters with too many issues to really list here without getting involved in a flame war (with a Charter Arms fanboy? That'd be interesting).
 
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