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Taurus: your verdict on Taurus auto-loaders.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Feb 19, 2012.


What is your view on Taurus auto-loaders?

Poll closed Apr 29, 2014.
  1. Excellent: It has my full confidence.

    114 vote(s)
  2. Good: Not quite there yet, but above average.

    77 vote(s)
  3. Average: Nothing special at all.

    116 vote(s)
  4. Below Average: They are substandard.

    83 vote(s)
  5. Poor: Pathetic, and I will never rely on.

    53 vote(s)
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  1. el Godfather

    el Godfather Senior Member

    Feb 4, 2012
    Dear THR:
    The Taurus question keeps popping now and then. Mostly on folks with complaints and very few ever on with praise. Majority of the online boards have overall negative view about the Taurus firearms. Why?

    After all the negative rant there is, why do folks keep buying Taurus and then later complain?

    Do the online negative sentiments actually reflect the reality?

    Have Taurus handguns improved over the years or have they further declined?

    What are three things Taurus can do to get you to pick Taurus as your primary weapon with confidence?

    Last edited: Feb 19, 2012
  2. MikePaiN

    MikePaiN Senior Member

    Apr 17, 2009
    CT, USA
    Because of my experience with Taurus products over the years, I have no faith in their weapons.
  3. BigN

    BigN Member

    Dec 17, 2010
    Adirondack Mountains, Waaay Upstate New York
    Make one that actually works would get my vote. I'm ditto with MikePain...
  4. oldfool

    oldfool Senior Member

    Jul 18, 2009
    Thomasville, Georgia
    "What are three things Taurus can do to get you to pick Taurus as your primary weapon with confidence?"

    TWO would do, for me (and I suspect for most)

    #1 - CONSISTENCY. Their quality is so severely erratic, that it creates huge 'trust' issues, even with many of us here who own some few that we really like a lot, but have near zero faith in any but for a very very few specific models and vintage.

    #2 - Customer Service that is worth something more than a bad joke. If they paid attention to #1, might not much matter, but given their erratic quality track record, it just adds insult to injury for too many folks, and angry buyers don't come back.

    Neither will happen, because it costs money, and Taurus management very deliberately chooses to be the high volume low price (aka low average quality) leader, not unlike Wallyworld. They sell so much volume "no matter what" it simply doesn't matter to the CEO. 'Cheap' sells volume, always has, always will. Everybody likes cheap, not everybody likes what goes with; 'everybody' is a bigger number than 'not everybody', and Taurus knows that. Their only halfway serious competition in the low end market is probably Kel-Tec and Hi-Point, neither of which has a diverse line, neither of which much pretends to be anything but cheap... but neither of which built a very large market in South America to support manufacturing scale before targeting the North American market.
  5. shootinxd

    shootinxd Member

    Dec 31, 2007
    My MilPro is my EDC.NEVER failed to feed or fire.
  6. Cornhusker77

    Cornhusker77 Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    I found an old Taurus PT92 that is a pure joy to shoot. Great balance, butter smooth trigger and accurate as a pistol can be. It's a little beat up, but When it shoots that good, I don't care.
    I have a PT111 that is dependable, but I never got used to the Heinie sights.
    Have a PT22 that has given me fits from day 1, but that little pistol and I are coming to terms.
    If I could change one thing about Taurus, it would be their customer service, probably second worse I've come across with Beretta being the worst.
    All in all I like their guns.
  7. kokapelli

    kokapelli Senior Member

    Jan 27, 2004
    My only experience is with a TCP that is IMO the best of the lower priced pocket 380 pistols. Mine has been 100% with the exception of a bad magazine which Taurus replaced very quickly.
  8. hceptj

    hceptj Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    My PT92 was a dream to shoot...smooth, never failed me. I shot a couple of Beretta 92s and couldn't tell the difference...except for the price of course.

    I haven't dealt with the customer service though...seems a lot of people complain about it a lot.
  9. CPO15

    CPO15 Member

    Jun 2, 2010
    Near Fincastle, VA
    I voted "poor". Why did I buy one? I read the reviews, thought I'd be lucky and get one of the "good ones".


    Mar 21, 2010
    Washington State
    Ive owned 2 over the years and had zero problems with either a Millenium Pro 9MM and a 24/7 in .45 ACP
  11. Spdracr39

    Spdracr39 New Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Central Arkansas
    I have a PT145. I bought it at a big box sports store and it jammed from day one. They sent it back for me no charge and it was returned in two weeks still jamming. Sent it back again and two weeks later it was fixed. It is now one of the nicest shooting guns I have ever owned. Good balance, accurate, perfect trigger pull, and an overall nice looking pistol. I don't know if I will buy another one but I am glad I stuck with this one till it was fixed correctly. Also I know the forums bash Taurus but they bash Glock too. The manager at the store was very surprised that I was having a problem because he claims they rarely get any Taurus pistols back and they sell a lot of them.
  12. JSpear

    JSpear Member

    Sep 30, 2011
    I said about average, I've owned a couple, the pt25 I had was a jamomatic, but the pt140 I have shots really well and hasn't had any problems
  13. wally

    wally Senior Member

    Jan 2, 2004
    Houston, Tx
    The PT-92 is as good as anything else on the market and a proven performer. Their others are usually innovative and on balance generally better than Kel-Tec, although since Kel-Tec makes far fewer models their customer service is usually better. Although Kel-Tec has had my RFB back three times and its still not right, longest streak without a failure is 138 rounds (still active, last time out was my first session without a failure).
  14. skt239

    skt239 Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Considering all the problems I had with their revolvers I couldn't possibly bring myself to trust a Taurus auto. There are many Taurus hard liners who dismiss any complaints and believe them to be part of some vast conspiracy. That, IMO is just down right silly and bordering on pathetic. It's pretty plain to see their products are hit or miss and customer service is poor at best. Why do people keep buying them? People who are new to guns usually buy based on appearance (and Taurus makes some nice looking had guns) and do their research afterwards. Couple that with a price tag that is a bit less than the S&W next to it but to the untrained eye, looks pretty much the same.

    Their are also a lot of myths surrounding Taurus revolvers. Many people continue to perpetuate the myth that a Taurus revolver is internally a S&W and the only thing making it a Taurus is the roll mark. For semi autos their is a similar story that grew out of Taurus purchasing a beretta factory.
  15. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf member

    Jan 16, 2012
    Wet Oregon
    It must be the price point and the soul of P.T. Barnum compelling them to do so. Never know.
  16. Inebriated

    Inebriated Senior Member

    Mar 25, 2011
    I would ask they make prettier guns...
    I know their reliability is iffy (if you get one that works, it'll serve you beautifully, but get one that doesn't, and it'll be headaches). If they could improve on quality control/consistency, and make their guns a little nicer to look at, I'd be fine.
  17. gearhead

    gearhead Member

    Feb 2, 2010
    I have two Taurus semi-autos and one Raging Bull. I bought the semis brand new, they (a 24/7 DS Pro C .45 and a 709 Slim) have been flawless and are my EDCs. I bought the Raging Bull used, the lockup was awful but I returned it and for $20 shipping and a week and a half at Taurus it came back repaired. I have no issues with either their guns or their customer service.
  18. MCgunner

    MCgunner Senior Member

    Dec 3, 2005
    The end of the road between Sodom and Gomorrah Tex
    I often wonder, I see a lot of the bashers of the brand are from the NE or east coast. Wonder if it's a union thing, seeing as S&W is up there. You know, you've heard it, Harley Davidson's best...Jap Crap...yadda yadda. Works with guns, I'll bet, too.
  19. benzuncle

    benzuncle Member

    May 16, 2008
    Central Florida
    I bought a PT-145 NIB based on research on this and another forum. While there were a lot of naysayers, too many had heard from a friend of a friend of the friend that Taurus sucked. Enough actual owners of the PT-145 seemed satisfied enough for me to take the plunge. Well, I guess I got lucky. Through 1500+ rounds the PT-145has been nothing less than flawless. So, I rolled the dice and bought a second PT-145, in case they discontinued the model. After 600 rounds of flawless operation, I deem myself charmed. The newer one has replaced the first one as one of my EDC's.
  20. mesinge2

    mesinge2 Senior Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    Central Florida
    With Taurus it is a quality control issue. Its not that they make bad guns; its just that their quality control is poor and CS is mediocre at best. I have owned 6 Taurus guns at one time (still own two), 3 had serious issues, and 3 were perfect. If you get a good one its most likely going to last but I had a 50/50 shot of getting a good one. My Taurus 44 mag Tracker's cylinder would open after firing each shot unless I used Special loads only, my Taurus PT-145 went full-auto on me and they had to replace the gun, and my Taurus m85 Ultra light's cylinder would bind until frozen. I would have to use a rubber mallet to unlock the cylinder. However, my 8-shot 357 mag model 608, my 9mm model 905 revolver, and my PT-92 (sold to fund another project) always performed above expectations.
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