Taurus: your verdict on Taurus auto-loaders.

[meanmrmustard]

Had ONE Taurus: a TCP .380. POS!!! It is sold, not missed, nor would I trust it. My only regret is to the new owner.

 

[chicharrones]

Is there a Taurus firearms manufacturing plant in the U.S.A.?

I couldn't locate one searching online. Do you have any info in that regard?

Here's a tour of the US plant in Florida. Taurus does produce their small pistols in Florida due to US import regulations on small pistols.

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/t...aurus-international-mfg-inc-factory-tour.html

 

[Godsgunman]

Well here is my opinion and first hand experience for what its worth. I know it won't matter to the Taurus haters on here but everything I will say is factual. I have owned 4 Tauri, the Judge, a Millenium Pro PT 745, a 24/7 40 cal, and a PT 908. All very good reliable guns. I have owned other S&W and CZ handguns also and my Tauri have been just as good as those. Actually my PT 908 is more accurate and has the nicest trigger action out of any handgun I've ever owned. As far as customer service goes, I am very pleased. I had the extractor crack on my 908 and sent it in for repair. They quoted me 4 weeks but it was back in 10 days working like new. Thats pretty good if you ask me.

So I guess I'm just really lucky according to you nay-sayers, maybe I should go buy a lotto ticket then. IF you personally have had a bad experience with your Taurus then you have a right to not buy them. All you others; well I can fabricate stories of my mom's cousins' sisters' uncles' long lost grandpas' bad experience with company X's product to. This IS the highroad so lets just give straight up answers not watered down false biases.

 

[ExTank]

Nah, we're just rigging the poll to make the Glock Mafia look bad about all their Taurus-hate.

 

[meanmrmustard]

And anyone can fabricate a firsthand false bias. It's about trusting each other.

 

[LawScholar]

And anyone can fabricate a firsthand false bias. It's about trusting each other.

+1. I said as much in a previous post. I have bad Taurus experience, others have good. If we assume each other is lying, there's no point to a discussion forum.

 

[el Godfather]

What's a Glock Mafia?? Come one! Try to tolerate opinions of others.

 

[JR47]

Blue Steel Taurus PT92 -$458
Springfield XD - $430
One of SEVERAL Taurus service-oriented models more expensive than the XD.
Kindly don't call me a liar. I do my research before I post.

Might I also kindly suggest that you compare the PT92 to a gun currently in production?

Buds lists both the XD and XDm on their site. They are identified as such.

The XD is no longer in production. Perhaps that's why they are priced so low?

This is the current 5" XDm XDM9241HCSP , and it's priced at $630.00.

Please, the next time that you "do your research", do it correctly, and compare guns that are both in production.

I believe that you'll find that ALL current production XDm pistols are more expensive than comparable guns from Taurus.

I didn't call you a liar, sir. However, I am accusing you of poor research techniques.

Nor have I ever said that you manufactured anything. What I said, and mean, is that there are obviously different levels of failure to different people. To some, a gun that shoots low left is a factory defect. To others, it means that your trigger work is poor. Some expect a gun to work 100% out of the box, without cleaning or lubricating, or break-in. That is their criteria. Others clean the guns, lube them, and break them in. Again, there are entirely too many variables to consider anything but a case-by-case evaluation.

I've had far more trouble with S&W, Colt, HK, and Sig over the years than I have had with Taurus, Wilson, or Baer, although I did have one Wilson returned for service. I own enough firearms that, according to my insurance company, I should rule a South American country. Yet, you won't find me haunting any of those forums, or threads, bashing the brands.

 

[el Godfather]

How many? just kidding.


I forgot who mentioned Israelis using Taurus.....Can that person kindly state which agency? I am very fond of Israeli weapons and admire some of their techniques.

 

[coalman]

I owned a Taurus 85 I got rediculously cheap. Worked fine. Traded it for more than I paid. With all that's available, IMO just no reason for me to own/trust a Taurus. If it's all you can afford that's better than the alternative.

 

[ExTank]

What's a Glock Mafia?? Come one! Try to tolerate opinions of others.

I need to repsect the opinions of others?

I'm not the one asking the mods to investigate the poll results because I can't believe so many people can like Taurus guns.

 

[el Godfather]

ExTank, I am not going to make it personal, therefore, I will not respond to your post.

I would like this thread to continue with discussion. Still awaiting name of Isaeli agency using the Taurus. That will be more then the list of awards Taurus got, for me.

 

[LawScholar]

"The XD is no longer in production. Perhaps that's why they are priced so low?"

Do you have a cite for this? The full line is still on the SA website, Bud's has had them for ages, and all my local stores have them, as has most every gun store I've been in.

The argument is still sound with other pistols. How about the Sig Sauer SP2022? $399, even cheaper than the XD. Current production, and a much sounder reputation than the typical Taurus design.

The point being there's no reason to choose Taurus for cost. There are options of similar costs that aren't such a quality control wild card.

Police and militaries don't just buy on cost, there's a quality calculus there, and in my opinion and apparently those of agencies / militaries, Taurus has not yet satisfied that calculus.

Much as the idea of a Glock mafia is silly, so is the idea of some massive national and international conspiracy against Taurus. They'd be in more holsters in official capacities if the quality was there at a decent level of consistency. All the brands have quality control issues, yes, including Glock, Smith, Beretta, Sig, and HK. But those issues don't crop up nearly as much as with Taurus, and when they do, those companies tend to deal with them a lot better (except Beretta, and I say that as an owner who loves his. What a nightmare). That, in my opinion, is why you find those brands in thousands of holsters, but not Taurus. Not a conspiracy, not hearsay, not unfair maligning, but substandard quality control and customer service practices. If they get those taken care of, some of their fundamentally solid designs might actually get a shot to shine. Until then, I predict it'll be gimmicks like the Judge.

 

[JR47]

You are correct, Springfield is still listing the XD on their site. Until, that is, the supplies are exhausted. I called Springfield CS, and that was the answer given. All new production is in XDm.

The Sig 2022 is in use by what agency?

I would also like to point out that it was YOU who brought cost into the posting, not me.

Once more, MOST LEO organizations require that a plant for the weapons exist in America as a qualification for bidding. ALL of the military bids are worded that way.

Glock was unable to bid due, in part, to that, and to the fact that the military doesn't consider the trigger safety to be a safety.

But those issues don't crop up nearly as much as with Taurus, and when they do, those companies tend to deal with them a lot better (except Beretta, and I say that as an owner who loves his. What a nightmare). That, in my opinion, is why you find those brands in thousands of holsters, but not Taurus.

There are options of similar costs that aren't such a quality control wild card.

Nobody has presented anything but anecdotal evidence to this thread. To actually be able to prove what is conjectured, wished, or accused, there needs to be hard proof. That is markedly missing.

Until that is provided, this is simply a discussion of opinion, and will never arrive at a factual answer.

As for LEO use in America, the Prince George's County PD, Baltimore City PD, Howard County PD, and multiple other police departments carry Taurus revolvers and semi-autos on their list of approved off-duty carry.

As near as my contact in the Israeli Embassy can determine, while doing his REAL job, is that several Kibbutz militias issued the Taurus PT92. He also added that it's quite possible that, in years past, the PT92 was also issued to the Civilian Guard Units, or the Volunteers of the Traffic Unit.

It appears that there are 100,000+ volunteers in the Israeli Police, armed.

I hope that helps.

 

[el Godfather]

List of aaproved "off" duty gun doesn't mean anything.

 

[njcioffi]

I have had several Tuari (?) over the years, and no issues. I currently have a PT1911, and it is the straightest shooting and most reliable 1911 I have owned. I have no complaints abou tit at all.

A friend of mine recently bought a Tracker in .22lr, and it was a lemon. spent a lot of time trying to get it to function, to no avail. I have a tracker in .44M, and it purrs.

I have had a few guns that have really let me down in the past...2 rugers (mini 14, bolt split lengthwise...SBH, weird cycling issues), S&W K frame (forcing cone exploded), and a Walther PPKs (also technically a S&W...wouldnt shoot 7 times in a row without feed problems).

 

[el Godfather]

Bump

 

[spanishjames]

Just curious, why bump this thread?

 

[el Godfather]

To see if there is any change in opinion after the new products launched by Taurus.

 

[armsmaster270]

Hit & miss some are excellent, some are junk.

 

[Henryfan1]

Personally, I have had nothing but bad luck with them with multiple trips to the factory.

 

[allin]

Taurus makes good guns

I have owned and shot Taurus guns for many years (25) I have several revolvers (38 & 357 & 22) and a PT92, a PT1911, and a 24/7 Pro 45ACP. The revolvers are 2" Poly 38, 3" 38, 4" 357, and 6" 357 & 4" 22lr. I also own Smiths and Springfield and Remington. People should "get off the bashing". I bought a Hi Point 9mm just to see what everyone was bitching about. The gun shoots fine. Get life, go out shooting, have fun, enjoy your sport. If everyone preferred the same gun there would not be so many different ones made. Same thing for cars!!

 

[TimboKhan]

Closing this. This is 10 pages of what boils down to either hate/love opinions. Someone who hates Taurus isn't going to change because of new models, nor is someone who loves them.