Taurus: your verdict on Taurus auto-loaders.

[10sport64]

Agree!!!!

Mesinge2, You hit the nail in the head my friend. It would be great if the CS do it's part. It took me 10 Months to get a single recoil spring from Taurus. Now I have 3 of them. I am in pretty good shape years to come with my 24/7Pro, one of the best grip and shooting 9 mm I've ever known.

 

[10sport64]

See how interesting is sahring about guns and experience? All the problems mentioned above with the TCP 380 I had with the Ruger LCP. One trip to Ruger, ramp polishing and nothing good came out of it. My Keltec shoots like a charm with no malfunctions. Got lucky?

 

[ritepath]

I have a gen 3 pt145 that won't shoot 3 times without jamming...bad magazines I suppose since it's always a nosedive into the front of the mag. I bought a 24/7 mag with the same results. It now sits in my safe clean and pretty...I love the size and how well it shoots.

Anyone have any experience with the pt845? I'd get one of those if I could trade the 145...that is if it's more reliable.

 

[alaskanativeson]

I didn't vote because "Other - Some are great, others are crap" wasn't a choice. I'm with oldfool here:

...#1 - CONSISTENCY. Their quality is so severely erratic, that it creates huge 'trust' issues, even with many of us here who own some few that we really like a lot, but have near zero faith in any but for a very very few specific models and vintage.

#2 - Customer Service that is worth something more than a bad joke. If they paid attention to #1, might not much matter, but given their erratic quality track record, it just adds insult to injury for too many folks, and angry buyers don't come back...

Taurus seems to be the lottery of handguns. If you get a really good one, it can border on great. If not, you could do the zig-zag of customer service exchanges, or even worse, you could send it to Taurus and have it sit on a shelf in the shop for 179 years. They can certainly make good guns, but I have two words for management at Taurus:

QUALITY. CONTROL.

That means you control the quality of product that goes out your doors. It's not hard to do, but it does need quality people.

 

[griz1]

Had a PT22 that jammed alot and the frame cracked in two places shooting
regular velocity ammo. I will never buy another firearm from this company.

 

[skt239]

I often wonder, I see a lot of the bashers of the brand are from the NE or east coast. Wonder if it's a union thing, seeing as S&W is up there. You know, you've heard it, Harley Davidson's best...Jap Crap...yadda yadda. Works with guns, I'll bet, too.

This by far is the most priceless of the conspiracy theory's. Thanks for making my evening.

 

[el Godfather]

I don't know how a certain geographical region can be biased to a particular brand of weapons.

 

[Tennessee Ned]

I have a 99af that's been a good one but it's the only Taurus I have experience with. I've had it for 20-something years and never any problems.

Their new stuff looks good and they market it well. They seem to be priced affordably too. I don't think I'd have a problem buying another even though I've heard the horror stories about their customer service and quality.

 

[Blackponycar00]

I only have experience with one Taurus, my 24/7 Pro C DS .40. Owned for approximately 1 year, almost 1500 rounds of various ammo, all have fed, fired, and ejected as they are supposed to. This firearm has proven itself reliable for me, and is currently my EDC weapon.

 

[jim243]

I have had three Taurus pistols and all worked great and functioned as they should. I did sell two of them because of a CZ 75 purchase. But there was nothing wrong with any of them. Their customer service does seem a bit of a problem, but I think it's because of the number of guns (LOTS) they sell. For the price you get a functional pistol that shoots very well, but it is up to you to check the gun out BEFORE you purchase. Would I buy another, YES.

Jim

 

[Myles]

I have a PT92 with more than 30,000 rounds through it. My only experience with their CS was just fine. I once had a Taurus 66 .357 and regret selling it. I cannot comment on newer models they have produced.

Their are also a lot of myths surrounding Taurus revolvers. Many people continue to perpetuate the myth that a Taurus revolver is internally a S&W and the only thing making it a Taurus is the roll mark. For semi autos their is a similar story that grew out of Taurus purchasing a beretta factory.

That's not a myth.

Smith & Wesson had been purchased by a conglomerate named Bangor Punta. In 1970, Bangor Punta also purchased 54% of Taurus. Thus, the two companies became "sisters". Smith & Wesson never owned Taurus. They were both independent companies. However, during the next seven years, a great deal of technology and methodology was passed between the two. What may come as a surprise to some is that more of what was "right" in Porto Alegre was sent to Springfield than was sent from Springfield to south of the equator.

Beretta had won a huge contract in 1974 to produce small arms for the army of Brazil. Part of the deal was that Beretta construct a Brazilian factory and use Brazilian labor. This they did, in the southwestern coastal city of Sao Paulo. When the contract ran out in 1980, Beretta sold the plant, literally "lock, stock and barrel," to Taurus. Taurus now owned everything that once belonged to Beretta, including drawings, tooling, machinery, and a very experienced work force. Taurus was in the pistol business, and immediately sought to improve on the Beretta design, resulting in the popular and acclaimed Taurus PT-92 and PT-99 9mm pistols.

 

[el Godfather]

Very evenly distributed poll here.

I have got to say that as much as I don't like Taurus, everytime they come out with something new and cheap- its tempting, but after 3 failed 24/7s I rather not venture in Taurus territory again.

 

[hifirock57]

I often wonder, I see a lot of the bashers of the brand are from the NE or east coast. Wonder if it's a union thing, seeing as S&W is up there. You know, you've heard it, Harley Davidson's best...Jap Crap...yadda yadda. Works with guns, I'll bet, too.

I own a Japanese sportbike, live in the southwest, and I hate Taurus too

 

[spanishjames]

My Taurus PT92 is rock solid. I would absolutely trust it with my life. I've also fired a PT22 which is lacking in finish quality ($200.00 new), but worked fine.

It comes down to relativity. Taurus can't hold a candle to the older S&W relovers, but most of the nay-sayers are doing just that, comparing the two. There's no comparison. That doesn't make Taurus products trash. It makes it apples to oranges.

 

[carbuncle]

I got lucky with the 85 I had about a decade ago, but with that being said I'm not rolling the dice again.

 

[alaskanativeson]

Earlier I said Taurus was like a handgun lottery, and I think it's true. However, I've so far chosen winning picks. I've had a snub nose .38 model 85 and it was great. I have 2 model 941s in .22 magnum and they're among my favorite guns. My stainless model 71 pump .22 mag is also a winner. That said, I've shot a fellow teacher's PT145 that didn't like a single brand of ammo. My cousin had a model 85 that didn't like to rotate the cylinder, and my brother had a pump 22 that felt like it was made with parts from Grendel's throw away pile. However, one of my Principals had a 1911 that was just cherry, and I've known others who've had good success. So I stand by my assertion, Taurus is like China: Capable of greatness, but SERIOUSLY lacking in consistency. Quality control isn't all that hard to do, I used to be a QC inspector at a hard drive manufacturing company in Longmont, CO. You just need the commitment to doing it.

 

[10sport64]

Right on Myles!

 

[JR47]

If it took ten years to find three problem Taurus semis, I'd say that isn't too bad. I own a dozen various Taurus handguns, some for 25+ years now. NONE of them has failed, and my PT92 is approaching 25K rounds, on the original locking block.

Then again, I don't consider the fact that I may have to drift a sight a "malfunction".

I have small and medium frame revolvers, and a plethora of various semi-auto models. I use them in teaching, and also carry them for CCW. I even have one of those "terrible" PT22s. Oddly enough, I keep it clean, and feed it CCI Mini-Mag, and it's gone through most of a case so far, and is in one functional piece.

I've actually had much worse service from S&W, Sig, HK, and Colt. I bought a new gun from each of these manufacturers, and not inexpensive models. The S&W failed on the first shot. The Sig failed between 50-75 rounds, and the HK fired groups like a Cylinder bored 12 ga. The Colt had a rear sight that you could watch move as you fired it. None of this was evident when inspecting the guns in the shop. So, why is it that people seem to think that it's somehow acceptable for old line manufacturers to produce such spotty QC, but Taurus is bad for the same thing?

As terrible as it might seem, there is an entire world of shooters using Taurus handguns that have never had a problem. There are many who simply aren't interested in the latest "I saw, or my friend......, or the guy at the gun shop said......" Internet Lore. It's like buying a car and listening to the fan-boys tales of woe about your choice.

In the 1970s and 1980s, people were bemoaning the "terrible" QC of S&W. They felt that the guns were over-priced, over-hyped, and should have been sent over there. Now, posters wax poetic over the guns S&W produced back then.

Yeah......OK.......that pretty much says it all to me.

 

[thefamcnaj]

I went with "pathetic". I've never had any luck with Taurus auto loaders. Safe to say I'm done with the Taurus brand. The two Taurus pistols I gave a try were junk. Jammomattics and a ton of ftf/fte.
One of my shooting had terrible luck with pt slim line.

 

[kokapelli]

Count me as one of the lucky ones. My TCP has been excellent.

 

[glove]

My PT-140 Mil. Pro. 2 gen. has been 100% from day one. Now I want a PT111.

 

[Tex4426]

The older ones are crap...but there under new managment as of sometme in the last few years and are now a decent gun at a decent price...this was from a reliable source not myself

 

[Nushif]

The older ones are crap...but there under new managment as of sometme in the last few years and are now a decent gun at a decent price...this was from a reliable source not myself

Which is .... ?

 

[Tex4426]

Idk when the new person took over...that's just what I was told by a reputable gun dealer...didn't ask more questions cuz that's not what I was there to buy

 

[jbr]

Absolutely love my model 66. Great shotter, great trigger. Love my pt738. Also a great shooter for a mouse gun. My pt 709 is a decent shooter but i have had some issues with it jamming. Mostly failed extraction leading to next round jamming under the empty casing - hard jam to clear. I had an accident with my trigger finger and have not been able to shoot the 709 since it came back from the 2nd repair - a friend shot it and it did fine for the 50 or so rounds he put thru it. I must say - best customer service i've ever experienced with any product. They picked it up the next morning after i called - one week later i got it back - Both times!