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Taylor's Uberti engraved 45 LC 5.5 white Colt

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Bullseye, Feb 2, 2014.

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  1. Bullseye
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    I haven't been on here for awhile but I wanted to show off my newest handgun. It is not stainless steel like I have seen falsely advertised. It is specially heated steel and the engraved models are factory tuned to a degree. My only issue is that the hammers on these clones all seem to get a scratch on them from hitting the sides when the trigger is pulled. Maybe this is common on a lot of SAA clones and maybe even on the "Real" Colts it occurred.
    It doesn't show until the hammer is back so it isn't an eyesore.
    I have not shot this yet. I bought it to compliment my other Uberti 1873 Sporting Rifle just because, well, just because. I am such a kid. I won't be dressing up like a cowboy tho. ( Not outside of the house anyways. LOL )
     

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  2. DPris

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    Looks quite nice, but please don't refer to it as a Colt Peacemaker.
    It isn't.
    Denis

    It also isn't a Colt. :)
     
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  3. Bullseye
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    edited title. Thank you.
     
  4. DPris

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    Laser engraving?
    What are they saying the finish is, just left in the white?
    If so, it'll rust eventually, somewhere.
    Denis
     
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    Sig,
    It does look nice, I'm just curious about their approach.
    Denis
     
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    Looked it up, it's a laser-engraved Cattleman. Looks like a better job in your photo than I'd expect from a laser process.
    No real info on the steel, their "white heat-treated steel" description means nothing.
    They're all heat-treated steel. :)

    Be nice if Taylor's had more info on it.

    The hammer rub you mention is common on many single-actions.
    My Colts don't have it, but my Rugers do.
    Denis
     
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    Don't know anything about the steel but that's a very nice looking not Colt SAA! ;-)
     
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    Nice looking pistol. You could accurately describe it as a "Colt Peacemaker Reproduction". If you're concerned about the hammer getting scratched, just disassemble the pistol and very lightly knock the edge off the sides of the hammer raceway with something like 400 or 600 wet/dry sandpaper wrapped around a popsicle stick or something similar.

    All chrome moly steel will rust eventually...even that which has been blued.

    I don't know why folks think unfinished metal on firearms rusts instantly because it doesn't. Most don't realize that bores and chambers don't have any kind of finish on them and yet given just a modicum of care, they don't rust.

    I've shot some CAS with a fella who has a pair of engraved Uberti's very similar sigsmokers. Evidently he rarely cleans them because they stay covered with soot and carbon from shooting smokeless powder, but no rust anywhere.

    35W
     
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    Whelen,
    My comment was to say the gun is not immune to corrosion because of any "special" heat treatment.
    My sense was that the gun was expected not to rust by its owner because despite its lack of bluing & its non-stainless material, it had some sort of special steel.

    Of course all carbon steels will experience some form of surface corrosion eventually.
    Most stainless steels can rust, too.

    Nowhere did I say it'd rust instantly.

    Howbout we put it this way: If normal chrome moly carbon steel, left in the white, with no surface protectant, it is more likely to rust to some degree sooner than a standard blued version.

    In still other words, I disbelieve Sig should expect them to resist corrosion because of some magical heat-treatment.
    And I repeat it'd be nice if Taylors could include more detail on what exactly is the deal on the white "finish".
    Denis
     
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    Nice looking six shooter .

    It looks so good it messed DPris up . :D
     
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    My Urberti/IvarJohnson buntline has the sratch on the hammer too......doesnt bother me a bit.
     
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    very nice looking piece
     
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    Wouldn't mind seeing one in person. It is a looker. :)

    I have an engraved Pietta in the works, looking forward to seeing how well the laser engraving is on it.
    Denis
     
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    Thanks for the compliments, I don't expect the metal to rust. I won't shoot blackpowder through it either which might cause corrosion like you would find on a neglected muzzleloader or cap and ball. I keep all my firearms clean and well protected with an oil rag wipe down. It isn't a concern to me but I just mention that some sellers of this firearm state it is SS and I don't think it is.
    The factory engraving is pretty. It doesn't look cheap and they say that they do some hand clean up and detailing after the machine engraving process is done. If I wanted a "real" hand engraved colt 45 SA it would cost thousands of dollars.
    This is a real revolver and can shoot any factory loaded 45 LC ammo. The action is smooth.
    I like it a lot and I guess I can live with the scratches on the hammer, they were already there when I bought it NIB. It must have occurred in the factory testing or by others who happened to dry fire it before it came to me.
    I am sure I won't wear it out. I'd love to but ammo is expensive. I like to have enough ammo on hand for all my guns but when it comes to buying ammo, I'd rather spend the money on a firearm to have and to hold.
    I have seen Pietta, Uberti, and Taylors factory engraved and the pattern is different.
    Here is a good review and some YouTube vids of this exact one I have which I think was made in 2013. Notice this one has similar scratches on the hammer in the link.
    OCD is hard to live with fellas but I get by.
    http://www.guns.com/review/2013/05/27/gun-review-decration-day-taylors-1873-cattleman-engraved/
     
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    I load and shoot black powder in mine. Makes it a lot cheaper to shoot.
     
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    Sig,
    It IS limited on what it can shoot.
    Stay away from the +P levels like the CorBon stuff.

    It can handle standard pressures in the .45 Colt range, but if you try to hotrod it it'll catch up with you someday.
    Denis
     
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    Very nice looking, especially with the engraving and the subdued finish.
     
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    I'll be using something like Black Hills Cowboy 250 gr RNFP ammunition with a 725 muzzle velocity. I think the limit is 850 fps for this revolver. I can use Hornady LEVERevolution with my 1873 Uberti sporting rifle which I could even hunt with confidently if I want to.
    http://www.chuckhawks.com/hornady_45colt_evo.htm

    Your tip is well taken for me to remember, and for others who read this. I see no reason for "hot" loads myself in any firearm for my shooting enjoyment.
     
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    The gun can easily handle loads up to around 950FPs, depending on bullet, powder & pressures generated.
    It's not so much a safety issue as a wear & tear issue.

    I was just reacting to your earlier statement about it shooting "any factory load".
    CorBon's told me they make nothing in the caliber they'd recommend for a Peacemaker-type action.
    The product brand itself isn't necessarily the problem, it's more the design limitations.

    You may not blow a cylinder, but excessive use of hotter loads & higher pressures can accelerate wear on areas like the ratchet & the base pin.

    I wouldn't worry about using the Hornady load in your gun.

    Denis
     
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    These handguns don't have to be loaded as though they're some 120 year old relics. There is no set velocity "limit" for these handguns.

    Unknown to most, ALL handguns produced in Italy by Uberti are required by C.I.P.to be proofed with two cartridges loaded 30% over standard factory pressures. That'd be somewhere in the neighborhood of 18,000 CUP for the 45 Colt.

    Does this mean a fella can load his Uberti to the gills? Of course not. But it also means these handguns need not be pampered as though the next cartridge might send them into a million pieces. 950 fps with a 250 gr. lead bullet is doable while staying within pressure specs.

    35W
     
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    You REALLY need to visit a Cowboy Action Shooting match! Find one near you and enjoy the companionship of kindred spirits. Click on the map in the link to get a list.

    http://www.sassnet.com/clubs/index.php
     
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    J-Bar wrote:
    I'd like to go watch anyways. Yeah theres one right up the road.
    I would compete if they had something for the "Slowest gun in the East"
    I think my cowboy name would be something along those lines. Droopalong SloPoke Molasses Sluggish Crosseyed Snailtrail Thumbs ... I could never compete.
     
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    Finally, I'll refer to this as a
    Taylor's Uberti Single Action 45 long colt engraved Cattleman 5 and a half inch revolver.
    I'll just call it my SA 45 for short.
     
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    Still not entirely safe.
    You risk the indignation of the There's No Such Thing As A .45 Long Colt Club. :)
    Denis
     
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    How true, and I enjoy going 'round and round with them cuz somewhere I have some cases with a .45 LC headstamp. :evil:
     
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