Teach ‘em right. TN law win.

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http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB2550

I can’t find a good link to this bill, but it reportedly requires the state to develop curriculum for a high school elective class on how to safely handle firearms. If nothing else this will give some kids minimal exposure on how to safely remove a firearm that is in an accessible location. I hope it works, and I hope other states do something similar. It makes sense, and falls within the left wing agenda of making schools safer, but serves to force guns (maybe blue guns) into schools and should dispel at least part of the fear of the unknown for those kids growing up sheltered from firearms.

Good job TN.

Edit... elementary, in one place, HS in another... hmm...
 
Perhaps this type of education should be left to parents at home. That states secondary education rankings could use positive improvement.
 
high school elective class

While it will be an elective we may see an interest in actually learning something about real firearms and their function. The problem will be how to fill a term with enough information instead of showing movies and commenting on the unsafe handling of firearms.
 
Perhaps this type of education should be left to parents at home. That states secondary education rankings could use positive improvement.
The problem with that would be if Mom and Dad at home are not gun owners then the kids will not learn anything about safe firearm handling.
 
The problem with that would be if Mom and Dad at home are not gun owners then the kids will not learn anything about safe firearm handling.
And the ones who have guns at home will already know, but this will be reinforced, unless it’s the scary scenario of Dads 38 tucked away ina sock drawer and forgotten for years. That’s the kids this will really help because it will educate to remove the mystique of the unknown, and will hopefully prevent a few of these stories we read too often about big brother shooting little brother with dadsgun that they found hidden, unsecured, loaded, and readily accessible to little folks.
 
"Heather's Two Mommies Have an AK-47."

What does that even mean? So what if someone’s two moms have an AK? Is it better for you somehow if Heather has a mom and dad with an AK? Two dads? Just one parent?

I wish there was a dislike button.

We should all be happy that a more diverse crowd owns guns than not, whether we personally like their lifestyle or not.
 
It means relying on leftists to teach kids about firearms may not be a great plan. They would be likely to use the class as an opportunity for anti-Second-Amendment indoctrination. If I were a leftist, I wouldn't want a conservative Christian teaching my kids about sex and abortion.
 
It means relying on leftists to teach kids about firearms may not be a great plan. They would be likely to use the class as an opportunity for anti-Second-Amendment indoctrination.

As long as the class is about safely handling firearms it will bring to light, front and center, that the gun itself doesn't do anything with out the human pulling the trigger or mishandling it.

That, in turn, won't scare as many kids away from exploring any interest in firearm and in fact expose more kids to firearms and proving they can be safely handled.

All of that can only undermine their current mantra.


It's not only just a great.... it's in fact a GREAT plan.



If I were a leftist, I wouldn't want a conservative Christian teaching my kids about sex and abortion.


If you were a conservative Christian would you want a leftist teaching about sex and abortion?

That's likely what's happening now.

But at least they teach some of the science and biology of it.

What would you do about it? Nothing?
 
You are willing to put a lot of trust in the leftists running our educational system. They've shoved their beliefs down our kids' throats in every area of learning where it was possible, and their success has been shocking. We now live in a country where it would be normal to see enraged college students demonstrating to remove tacos from dining hall menus because they've been taught that eating Mexican food is cultural appropriation.

I don't see why teachers would make an exception to their policy of propagandizing when it comes to guns, which is possibly the area where they are most irrational and passionate.

If you were a conservative Christian would you want a leftist teaching about sex and abortion?

That's likely what's happening now.

But at least they teach some of the science and biology of it.

What would you do about it? Nothing?

It seems like you haven't read the same news I've been reading. Many, many people are upset about what leftists are teaching their kids about sex and abortion, and they are doing something about it: there is a huge homeschooling movement. It's pathetic, but it's the best we can do from our position of weakness. People pay taxes to support schools, and then they have to do the work themselves in order to protect their offspring.

Leftists utterly crushed us in PTA meetings, graduate school curricula, and so on, so many of us ran away and took the kids with us.
 
You are willing to put a lot of trust in the leftists running our educational system.

Nothing I've said should lead you to that conclusion... or accusation.


They've shoved their beliefs down our kids' throats in every area of learning where it was possible, and their success has been shocking.

They've played chess/long ball for a long time and it has paid off for them.

We need to do the same, imo.

Let them undermine themselves in the name of education.


I don't see why teachers would make an exception to their policy of propagandizing when it comes to guns,

They wont volutarily.

SB2609 includes

The following language as a new section:
The state board of education shall develop academic standards for a
comprehensive firearm education course to be offered as an elective in high school.
The course shall incorporate history, mathematics, and science related to firearms
and firearm safety education as recommended by law enforcement agencies and
firearms associations
.
The course of instruction shall not permit the use or presence
of live ammunition.



Campanion HB2550


SECTION 1. Tennessee CodeAnnotated, Title49, Chapter6, Part 10, is amended by adding the following language as a new section:
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An LEA may offer a noncompulsory gun safety class or program for students in elementary school. lf an LEA offers a gun safety class or program, then the LEA may incorporate, in the class or program, the rules and principles of gun safety developed by an organization specializing in firearms training and safety that the local board of
education finds appropriate to incorporate. The course of instruction shall not permit the use or presence of live ammunition or live fire.


The proposed laws, if anything, are taking a lot of the teachers imput out of it.

Again, Let them undermine themselves in the name of education.

It's a great plan, imo.
 
What does that even mean? So what if someone’s two moms have an AK? Is it better for you somehow if Heather has a mom and dad with an AK? Two dads? Just one parent?

I wish there was a dislike button.

We should all be happy that a more diverse crowd owns guns than not, whether we personally like their lifestyle or not.

Well said.


...as for the Bill, Kudos to TN. Teaching gun safety to young people should be no different than teaching safe sex and healthy living.
 
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Danez71, you have great confidence in these people. You think a vague, possibly unenforceable line in a statute will keep them in check. Good luck with that. I hope you're right, but this looks like an uphill battle to me.
 
It means relying on leftists to teach kids about firearms may not be a great plan.

You are willing to put a lot of trust in the leftists running our educational system.

From what I saw of the posted link, the class/program would be run, and the curriculum of it planned, by the local LEA. The programs are also intended for elementary school age children, which will probably primarily entail what to do when kids of that age come across an unattended firearm, when they are not in the presence of an adult. Probably similar to the NRA, "Eddie Eagle" programs.

If one is concerned with what is being taught at these types of programs in their School District, there is an easy solution. That would be to go to a local School Board meeting and ask. Kinda why they are open to the public. Once one knows exactly what is being presented, then they may have something to whine about.....or not.
 
Danez71, you have great confidence in these people. You think a vague, possibly unenforceable line in a statute will keep them in check. Good luck with that. I hope you're right, but this looks like an uphill battle to me.

It IS an up hill battle for certain.

I'll take a statute with a possibility any day or the week and twice on Sunday rather than nothing but status quo.
 
Danez71, you have great confidence in these people. You think a vague, possibly unenforceable line in a statute will keep them in check. Good luck with that. I hope you're right, but this looks like an uphill battle to me.

So there is a bill passed into law that is beneficial and you simply scoff it off as worthless. With an attitude like that it is worthless, but with a positive attitude it can have a positive effect.
 
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