Ted Nugent; hurting the cause?

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I dont see the problem.He has a set of balls and is not PC so people get scared. we need people who are TRULY PASSIONATE about our gun rights. I wish NRA would go MORE on the offense and think outside the box.
I wish they would stop wasting money on sending me stickers,key chains,pens and put that money to good use.I can think of several interesting things to use the cash on.
I don't see a problem with Uncle Ted.
 
I'm surprised by the amount of people on this forum that don't like him.i love Ted ,I love his message. It's just the thing we need,I feel that too many of our crowd has gone PC .



I'm surprised that the NRA did have him Speak I generally think of the NRA as an extremely PC group that is afraid of its own shadow. More Ted is just what the NRA needs.



The antis will always be antis,no matter how softly you speak to them,ted isnt going to turn anyone off who isn't already an anti gun bozo,and drive-by media is always going to hate guns,with or without ted
 
It's disappointing that he has his own show, a budget, a film crew, and chooses to take part in illegal hunting. Plenty of folks, including myself, are hunting public land in conditions that absolutely suck compared to what he has access to and we play by the rules. I won't get all spooled up about his political comments....anyone in the limelight says stupid things from time to time, but the hunting violations is reason enough to question his integrity.
 
No, Ted is not PC.

While that can be refreshing, to many observers, the distance between "not PC" and "whacko" is alarmingly short.
 
anyone in the limelight says stupid things from time to time, but the hunting violations is reason enough to question his integrity.

Thats kinda how I feel.

I have always looked at him as a blowhard, never really given much credence to what he says.
But; as a hunter I feel that his ethics are poor at best, I would NOT hunt with him.
 
If you could nominate a single champion to give a reasoned argument in support of 2A rights, and the case that person made would determine if we got to keep them, would you choose Ted Nugent to be that person?

Me either.

I didn't know about all the illegal hunting stuff. I used to find his over the top persona amusing but now I know he's a slob hunter I just find him distasteful. I know he was just speaking metaphorically, but I think he's not doing us any favors.
 
I thought he was a tool before any of this nonsense, so none of this really changes my opinion on him. It only illustrates to other people why I feel the way I do about him: just a redneck loudmouth, who lends credibility to the stereotype of all gun owners being redneck loudmouths. He doesn't, never did, never will speak for me, in any capacity.
 
I think I will wait to get ALL the full details before making a judgement on Ted Nugent. I like Ted, he is not PC and not afraid of confrontation. He is making himself a target for the liberal press for sure. We'll see how things play out. But for all those who think he makes the gun community look like a bunch psycho's I got news for you, the left already thinks that. This whole thing started because Nugent was trying to rally support to defeat Obama. I like that we have people that are not afraid to speak thier mind. The left fears people like Nugent, so now they will do thier best to discredite him. And they succed when they fracture support among the gun community. I look for more dirty laundry to come out against TN.
 
The probe elm with Ted is that he's making the rest of the responsible gun owners and hunters look bad by his wacko antics and big mouth. This is the kind of tool that will hurt us in the long run, and somebody needs to impress on him the nned to shut up. If our cause is to have any kind of public spokesperson, he needs to do it with a bit of class. A person like Tom Selleck, who has never made any inflammatory remarks, been caught illegally hunting, or other embarrassing behavior is a much better type of person to have out there. Any of the Mandrell sisters too.

Ted is a wacko rocker who's over impressed with his own BS. He's hurting us for sure.
 
the distance between "not PC" and "whacko" is alarmingly short.


This^^^^^^^

I think his statements, and actions are counterproductive to the NRA, and promoting gun rights. He crosses the line because he wants the attention. Not the kind of attention we need.
 
Ted is a wacko rocker who's over impressed with his own BS. He's hurting us for sure

Yep do you mean like the forefather that said "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"? What was his name ......Patrick Henry. My history taught me that old Patrick was calling for open rebellion against the government.

Oh there was another founding father who said "I disagree with what you say but I will defend to death your right to say it" ?

Then as now most Americans sat quiety on the sidelines while a few of your "wackos" started a shooting war with the most powerful Army in the world.
 
I'm sure you can support that statement with links as to it being a fact?



Sure about that, right? You have acess to his financial records?

Believe me it was pretty hard to get a 4$ status back in those days.

Anyone here ever hear of speaking metaphorically?

At least he had a pair and let the world know how he felt instead of how most do today and pussy foot around the subject!
So many links, so little time. I googled "Ted Nugent draft dodger" Google sent me 32,600 results. Take your pick.

I thought I would send Ted an email expressing my thoughts over his latest antics. If you wish to communicate with Ted, you must join his website which requires Money$$.

I used to hunt before my disability took hold. I still consider myself a hunter. Ted never has, nor never will represent me. I am sure there are thousands, if not millions of others who want no part of Ted and his shenanigans.

"speaking metaphorically" Is that what waving an automatic weapon around while addressing a public assembly, and telling government officials to "suck on it"? If most of us repeated this form of public protest against the government, we could at least expect a visit from the ATF. You know the nice folks who are in charge of machine guns?
 
BSA1 wrote:
Then as now most Americans sat quietly on the sidelines while a few of your "wackos" started a shooting war with the most powerful Army in the world.

Yup. Back then most folks probably said, "Don't make waves." And they stuck their heads right back in the sand. Just like folks today who say "It can't happen here" and "one president, no matter how bad, can't destroy America".

When Hitler was elected (Yes, he was elected!), his opponents said, "Don't worry. We'll just wait him out, and defeat him in the next election." But there was no next election!

Do you think our next election is going to be real, fair, and devoid of fraud?

P.S. I'll bet all those who buy into the media spin on Ted Nugent also buy into the media spin on Sarah Palin. And yet, in my mind, these two embody the true spirit of America. I guess that makes me another "wacko", and I'm also a wacko because I revere the Bill of Rights just as I revere the Ten Commandments.
 
ApacheCoTodd: If I remember correctly there were literally thousands of people claiming if George W was elected or re-elected they would be dead or in concentration camps. I can't understand the level of fury against him, he never threatened the President as Louis Farrakhan did, he mostly threatened himself...... I think there is an awful lot of chest thumping around here.
 
csa77 said:
ted isnt going to turn anyone off who isn't already an anti gun bozo
He seems to have turned off plenty of people in this thread. Do you think each of those people is "already an anti gun bozo?"

BSA1 said:
Oh there was another founding father who said "I disagree with what you say but I will defend to death your right to say it" ?
Evelyn Beatrice Hall was a founding father? :confused:
 
@Ringolevio and BSA

So wait, in this thread you compared the political realities of the Independence Wars to today's political reality, alluded to Obama as well as the W in a comparison to Hitler, injected neo-christian values into our religiously neutral government system, and thus concluded that it's a good idea for an elected spokesperson of any given organization to not ever reign in their own opinions when commenting in an official capacity on a topic the organization is supposed to *not* be about?

Am I getting this straight?

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On second thought, no edit.
 
If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.


I wonder if Ol' Uncle Ted is a man of his word. Oh, wait, his hunting ethics already have shown us his integrity. Never mind.
 
^^ LOL

A person like Tom Selleck, who has never made any inflammatory remarks, been caught illegally hunting, or other embarrassing behavior is a much better type of person to have out there.

I wholeheartedly agree.
 
The Nuge really has himself in a stranglehold here. Though what he said wasn't politically correct and possibly taken out of context, you can't knock the guy for using his 1A rights.

Besides this whole fiasco of him getting investigated by the SS is good publicity for them. It may help distract all the negative attention for their taxpayer funded prosti-party.
 
I agree with Carl. We need more representatives at the national level like Tom Selleck. A genuinely nice guy that's pro-guns and represents our position with some class. I'm hopeful that what we have seen from Nugent is his version of "jumping the shark."

While there are still a few hardcore supporters here, there are many fewer than just a few days ago in the other threads that were closed. BTW, I also went to the NRA website and shared my opinion with them.
 
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I like Tom Selleck too and wish he were more vocal on the issue.
I wonder if he served in Viet Nam?
 
I'm ok with Ted. He speaks his mind and says what most people are afraid to say. He owns up to his past mistakes and does great things for kids, outdoor sports and conservation.
One of the reasons the left can stand strong is because the stick together and us on the conservative side turn on each other.
 
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