Ted Nugent needs some help...

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My BloodBrothers, I have never asked for personal assistencde on my own behalf, howevere, DPMS Panther Arms claim they are getting hammered by the antigunners amongst us (lunatic fringe for sure) to abandon any relationship with me or my TV show for my stand to upgrade Jim Zumbo into a pro-DPMS rifle guy. HUH!!! Unbelievable for sure, but the cannibals amongst us are beyond xplanation. I respectfully request any of you who care, to write a brief, POLITE note to DPMS boss Randy Luth via Sasha at [email protected], with your take on my standing up to educate upgrade & recruit JZ & his Nugely discovered 2nd Amendment absolutism. Ya with me? ASAP plz!! Brief & POLITE! HITIT! Happy shootemup weekend!
 
I like Ted but he needs to let Zumbo go. Zumbo as a recognized spokesman for shooters is no friend to the RKBA and should prove through his actions before he gets upgraded.
 
Merciful

Zumbo has asked for forgiveness.
He has been out using them as often as he can, at least claiming too.
How can we be anything but dignified in accepting it his requesting for forgiveness?

Until he gives me further reason to doubt, I'll support Zumbo again.
 
For real. The guy offended us, and he got smacked down. Now he's apologized. I see no reason not to let him have a second chance. We've got bigger fish to fry right now, with bills like HR 1022 in Congress, than holding a grudge against one man who didn't think before he blogged.
 
This isn't even about Zumbo anymore. It's about how we are going to co-exist in the future. Are we part of the same side, or not?
Either unite, or become part of the problem.
Ted is taking the high road and using it to bring both sides together, and the children who can't get past someone calling them a name are trying to take him down for it.
To them, I say grow up and act your age!
 
I've known we're part of the same side all along. I haven't heard Zumbo go public with that. Sorry, but if you want friends, you have to be friendly.
 
You may not have heard it yet, but thats because you aren't looking/listening in the right places. I'm not going to do the work to find them all, but he has posted a bunch of new apologies and did an interview on WJR in Detroit last Sunday.
Look and you will find ;)
 
Rather than try to re-hab Dumbo, find a new hero to champion the cause... he's damaged goods akin to John Kerry and his brilliant "You get stuck in Iraq" speech.
 
...he's damaged goods...

Exactly.

So I see no need to cause further damage. This "re-hab" as you call it has nothing to do with Zumbo being thrust forward to "champion the cause." It has to do with helping solidify the community of gun owners.

You don't feel Ted should be penalized for being a grown-up and trying to do something positive with what has been a damned ugly situation, do you?
 
Jim Zumbo early this morning (Friday) provided me with a faxed copy of a letter he is sending to Alan Gottlieb, with a check, to be used to fight HR1022. In the letter he vows to become the "worst nightmare" for the Brady crowd.

If anyone has a problem with giving the Brady bunch nightmares, this may be the wrong forum :D

Zumbo says things in this letter that could only come from the heart. He says this experience has "awakened a sleeping giant within him, and filled him with a terrible resolve."

He also says in the letter that "I made a mistake" but the anti-gunners who have tried to capitalize on his gaffe "have made a bigger one."

That sounds like a man on a mission to me. And let's face it...with his professional life kind of ripped to pieces, he does have some time on his hands. I've known Zumbo off and on for better than 20 years.

IMHO, we ought to turn him loose... But that's just me talking.
 
First, just because someone doesn't like Zumbo any more does not make them an anti-gunner, Nugent may be a celebrity but that's all he is. His insinuation that only anti-gunners disagree with his approach is the same as W's assertion that anyone not following him meekly into a bloodbath must be supporting terrorists. That is to say, a load of bull.

"Lunatic fringe...cannibals" are further inflammatory expressions that Nugent should not be throwing around at people that stongly believe in 2A. I've lost all respect for him over those statements.

If anyone thinks he is acting like an adult they need to seek counseling, obviously they are just wanting to ride some celebrities coattails.

To be honest I don't mind if Nugent wants to rehabilitate Zumbo, it won't change my opinion of him. However, now that Nugent thinks everyone not agreeing with him is a cannibal , member of the lunatic fringe, or an anti-gunner I'll stay away from him also.

I'm a Vietnam Era Veteran, 6 years USN (Beachjumper's for most of that), I joined to protect peoples rights, even the right to say things I disagree with. However when they decide to insult me personally, I'll choose to spend my money elsewhere.
 
I'd subscribe to any magazine that gave Zumbo a "try a new terr'ist rifle every month" column.
 
This isn't even about Zumbo anymore. It's about how we are going to co-exist in the future. Are we part of the same side, or not?
Either unite, or become part of the problem.
Fact.

It's time to settle down and move on. If Uncle Ted needs our help to do that, I suggest we do exactly that.
 
Zumbo has never done me any favors. He doesn't represent me. I don't like him. I don't see how that is harmful to our Bill of Rights.
 
Zumbo's only sorry for what he said because of the backlash. If no one had paid any attention to him, he would still be spouting the same anti gun dribble.

Nugent is no better in calling those who held Zumbo accountable for his words, lunatics.

I'm sure most of us forgive Zumbo for his comments. It doesn't mean we need to resurrect him as a spokesman.

Not impressed by some over rated self absorbed celebrity type just because he hunts and owns guns.
Apparently most on his forum have no mind of their own.
Nugent needs to watch his words or he will end up the same as Zumbo.

Folks, this ain't no game. This is the fight of our lives for the continued support of the 2nd amendment.

There's no room for compromise.
 
antigunners amongst us (lunatic fringe for sure):cuss: Because we don't like what little teddy has done He calls us this

With that statement I put him in same boat as his new found buddie SCREW THEM BOTH
:banghead:
 
Folks, this ain't no game. This is the fight of our lives for the continued support of the 2nd amendment.
No, it's really not.

Zumbo was a nobody who said something disagreeable. That's it. Anything beyond that is a creation of the reaction.
 
To be honest I don't mind if Nugent wants to rehabilitate Zumbo, it won't change my opinion of him. However, now that Nugent thinks everyone not agreeing with him is a cannibal , member of the lunatic fringe, or an anti-gunner I'll stay away from him also.

To be honest, people like you are going to keep hating and shunning and cutting off anyone who can help you until there is no one left but you. Zumbo said something you don't like? Cut him off. Petzel wants to bring some rational thought to the issue? He's gone. Nugent wants to help Zumbo learn? He's done.

Where does it stop? Not forgiving and not uniting will leave you alone and lost.

When something gets damaged, you REPAIR IT.
 
I haven't followed this Zumbo stuff too closely, but if he said what I read he said..he should be forgotten and not be championed for any reason. As far as that nugent guy..the few times I recall ever seeing him on t.v./news, the guy seems to only bring a very negative image to RBKA issues. As far as his music, I think it sucks and he chooses, not unlike the hollywood idiots, to politicize and sour an otherwise musical event when he opens concerts..he should just shut up as well.
 
HuntCast said:
Ted is taking the high road and using it to bring both sides together, and the children who can't get past someone calling them a name are trying to take him down for it.

High road?

antigunner
lunatic fringe
cannibals

Nugent posting on his forum:
"anyone who so foolishly is ignoring the clear & obvious apology & upgrade here, plz dont bother posting. go to some hippie turd chewing bubba drunkass website & grovel there plz. here we demand upgrade. whattaconcept. Jeff, Ward, Mike, zap all *******s the hell out of my campfire plz. no punks allowed.”

Then this from Nugent:
"the cannibals amongst us are beyond xplanation"

The xplanation might have something to do with "hippie turd chewin bubbas" not appreciating some condescending, holier-than-thou celebrity getting lippy and calling 'em names. You may remember a while back Nuge, some guy named Zumbo ran off at the mouth...

And this? - "I respectfully request any of you who care, to write a brief, POLITE note to DPMS boss Randy Luth via Sasha at [email protected]"

So Sasha can filter out the "dump Nugent" letters ?
 
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HuntCast- said:

This isn't even about Zumbo anymore. It's about how we are going to co-exist in the future. Are we part of the same side, or not?
Either unite, or become part of the problem.
Ted is taking the high road and using it to bring both sides together, and the children who can't get past someone calling them a name are trying to take him down for it.
To them, I say grow up and act your age!

Sorry but Ted isn't interested in uniting or co-existing. Nor is he "taking the high road." He simply wants to ram his views down peoples throats.

When members of his message board disagreed with him on the issue of Zumbo's apology their posts were deleted, they were banned, and they were told by Ted himself to "eat sh*t and die."

This is how he acts towards members of his own board, the very members who kiss his a$$ on a daily basis. Is this really who you want to throw in with? I know I don't. And before you ask, no, I don't belong to that board. I have simply been following the entire train wreck as it unfolds there.

For a guy who is such a strong 2A supporter he doesn't seem to care much for the 1st.

EDIT: HAHA! eoR, you and I must have been sharing a brainwave or something! Good timing on both of our parts.
 
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