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Ted Nugent schools CNN’s Piers Morgan on gun control

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dragonboysx, May 19, 2011.

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  1. Dragonboysx

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  2. mbogo

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    The best snippet:

    Pier Morgan: "As much as I'd love to suck on your machine gun..."

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  3. HGUNHNTR

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    Ugh, Ted, thanks for nothing. Scratch that, thanks for reconfirming to all of those against gun rights and those ont he fence that gun rights advocates are a bunch of redneck, mouth breathing idiots. I wish this guy would turn anti gun, and be their mouthpiece. :barf:
     
  4. X-Rap

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    Wow why all the hate on Ted? He is kinda in your face but this debate needs all kinds.
    Do you fault his message or just the delivery?
     
  5. General Geoff

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    Did you watch the same video that I did? He might be brazen but he gets his point across, and he was ready to counter his opponent's assertions with statistics and numbers cited from a reliable source (the center for disease control). I don't see what he did wrong.
     
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    Because for every intellegent thing he says, he says an equil amount of REALLY stupid things, makeing most gun owners look like idiots!

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  7. HGUNHNTR

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    Oh c'mon, "you can suck on my machine gun?!" Childish retorts mixed with childish antics? Thats how you want to be represented as a responsible gun owner..not me. Look at this interview from another perspective, maybe as a nuetral, but non-gun owner. Now, what message does this convey? It is fanaticism that mocks responsible gun ownership...purely disgusting.
     
  8. Cosmoline

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    Actually that's the *MILD* version of Ted! He was on his best behavior there. As he himself admits, he's a wild rock and roll musician. He just happens to be into guns.

    But I think this highlights the fact that the gun rights movement, as powerful as it currently is, doesn't really have any clear leaders. There are some celebrities such as Ted who are affiliated, but it's a stretch to say they're speaking for anyone. Charlton Heston was probably the last to be able to voice the general positions of most RKBA supporters.
     
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    As much as I tend to agree with him, as others have mentioned Ted is not a very good spokesman.
     
  10. 19-3Ben

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    Huge +1.

    I can't stand the guy. He makes the rest of us look bad. Look, in every group you always have that one nitwit who makes the whole rest of the group look bad. He's ours.

    As DM said, he does make some good points. but every time he does, it's framed in this belittling, offensive manner that sucks the legitimacy out of every argument.

    When your argument is strong, you don't have to be disparaging. Disparaging and dismissive language is a tool for those who have a weak argument and try to win it by dragging the conversation down to the gutter. We're above that because we're right.
     
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    +1 to you Ben....If a THR member made the same types of comments on a thread, I believe the mods would remove them in good taste.
     
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    I think if things were switched around and a musician threatened a republican president to
    "to suck on my machine gun" Fox news would be leading an uproar against them and asking why the secret service isn't getting involved. Instead, its business at usual at the bizzaro world of Faux News.
     
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    Go Ted!!!

    Good to see it when someone has the guts to throw the anti-gun lies back in the face of the anti-gun, anti 2nd Amendment crowd.
     
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    ^Yeah if it were only done with tact and class, it would be much more powerful.
     
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    Ted Nugent...

    He's crass, opinionated, and flagrant.
    And that's why I like him.

    The simple-minded people have always thought that all gun owners are toothless beer swilling hillbillies who blast small furry animals for pleasure.

    I wish we could get more people to understand that we are not all that way, just like I know that not all liberals are tree hugging, gun hating, granola chompers who believe that no animals should be harmed, EVER!

    Gun owners are a diverse bunch as this website is a testimony to, that being said, I don't forsee CNN knocking on Tom Selleck's door for a gun interview.
    CNN knows as well as you or I that Uncle Ted will say something outrageous that will fire up both sides of the gun debate and cause the numbers to skyrocket.

    Some people like him, some don't. I for one, believe in exercising all my rights and free speech is the second most important to me. Right after the right to keep and bear arms. I don't say you have to agree, but I do say I get to have my own opinion, and so does Ted. That's what makes this country great.
     
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    ^ The problem is that he excercises his first amendment right as a spokesman for the shooting public as a whole.
     
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    Just because you have a right to say it, doesn't mean that it's strategically wise. Nobody is arguing that Ted doesn't have a right to say what he said.
    The point some of us are making that by exercising his right in the manner in which he chooses to exercise it, he casts us in a bad light and does more harm to the cause than good. He alienates people who are otherwise on the fence, or have little exposure to the debate.

    Edit to add- Why do I suddenly feel like HGUNHNTER and I are on the same team in a tag-team wrestling match?:D
     
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    When have you ever heard a smart truth speaking anti-gun person that did not get out of control when pushed on the subject. I know thats an oxymoron. If you have a butt head of an anti-gunner just turn Ted loose on them and he will only push his point to whats needed so he can stay a couple steps in front of there coments. Could you see a mild mannered well spoken pro-gun supporter getting his point across with piers morgan. Not likely. He does tend to control a show. Ted may be a fully unedited person but he does a fine job of being on top of a anti VS pro gun descussion
     
  19. X-Rap

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    As someone said he he is an outrageous rock and roller of the highest degree the fact that he is vehemently pro 2a and 1a is a bonus IMO. He gets the message out and that's the important part.
    I look at it like the old I'm the NRA adds, they showed a broad spectrum of Americans who all have the same passion.
    I often complain about the lack of celebrities who are willing to lay it on the line, Ted is not one of them. His style is much needed with those in the opposition that have similar personalities like that phony Libertarian Bill Maher.

    All the haters can "suck on my machine gun":neener::evil:
     
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    He does a fine job of being louder. Not outsmarting, or winning. There's a big difference.
     
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    Yes, that is exactly what I would like to see. You can't tell me the best we can muster is Ted.
     
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    Somebody needs to get in these peoples faces, especially when they spout the twisted statistics.

    I like Ted as a gun rights spokesman. I dislike Ted as a hunting spokesman - has he ever done anything except sit in a blind next to a corn dispenser?
     
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    He probably watches Sons of Guns too. :rolleyes:
     
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    In my part of the country gun owners are generally hunters and non-hunters/non-gun owners relate to us this way. In my part of the country, Ted is known as a violator and a shooter......... not a hunter. His negative actions reflect bad on all of us, regardless of how staunch his stand is for gun rights.
     
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    Yeah Ted definitely does have a take no prisoners approach to this, I am glad that he is on our side. I think it would help if he would calm down a bit but, like many of us, he is really passionate about the issue and emotions will run high.
     
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