never_retreat
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I think this is verry fitting
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Teen Hurt Whacking Bullets With Hammer
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This is why the way I remove bullets when I want the bullet and not the shell casing (for bullet keychains) is to cut into the brass first so that if there is ignition, the gases are vented.
It takes MUCH longer (double the time), but it is IMO much safer. I pull the bullet after I've emptied all of the powder so it's safe, and then I use a shell casing from the range, remove the primer, and put it together to make the keychain.
ETA: I clean it too to make sure there's no possible left over powder. Maybe I'm a little paranoid when dealing with ammo, but it's easy to get yourself hurt if you're not careful. It's even easier if you're stupid.
It takes MUCH longer (double the time), but it is IMO much safer. I pull the bullet after I've emptied all of the powder so it's safe, and then I use a shell casing from the range, remove the primer, and put it together to make the keychain.
ETA: I clean it too to make sure there's no possible left over powder. Maybe I'm a little paranoid when dealing with ammo, but it's easy to get yourself hurt if you're not careful. It's even easier if you're stupid.
351 WINCHESTER
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The problem arises from kids lack of knowledge, curiousity. Kid's and some adults do stupid things. When I was 15 I had a .243. I pulled the bullet, dumped the powder and proceeded to heat the shell with a mini torch. I placed the shell on top of a tin can lid which was on my desk. Kaboom. The shell stuck in the ceiling and the primer went thru 1" of pine and lodged in a drawer.
Last year my 15 year old son get curious just like his old man and takes a 12ga. shotgun shell apart. He was hitting the primer with a screwdriver when the primer blew. My wife had to take him to the e.r. to dig the primer and other stuff out of his hand. Thank God it wasn't his eye. Lesson learned.
I know a gunsmith (he's in his 70's). He had some old blackpowder ctgs. that were tarnished. He chucked one in his lathe and commenced polishing. In no time the shell got hot and he got a big surprise. I have a lot of respect for blackpowder, so much, in fact, that I don't use it anymore.
I was in my local gunshop several years back working on a nylon 66 that was jamming. I noticed an older guy buy a browning hp and 2 boxes of shells. He proceeds to load the mag. Then he inserts it into the pistol, racks the slide and lowers the hammer on a live round. Kaboom. The bullet just missed a good friend behind the counter. It got my attention and a lot of other peoples too.
Last year my 15 year old son get curious just like his old man and takes a 12ga. shotgun shell apart. He was hitting the primer with a screwdriver when the primer blew. My wife had to take him to the e.r. to dig the primer and other stuff out of his hand. Thank God it wasn't his eye. Lesson learned.
I know a gunsmith (he's in his 70's). He had some old blackpowder ctgs. that were tarnished. He chucked one in his lathe and commenced polishing. In no time the shell got hot and he got a big surprise. I have a lot of respect for blackpowder, so much, in fact, that I don't use it anymore.
I was in my local gunshop several years back working on a nylon 66 that was jamming. I noticed an older guy buy a browning hp and 2 boxes of shells. He proceeds to load the mag. Then he inserts it into the pistol, racks the slide and lowers the hammer on a live round. Kaboom. The bullet just missed a good friend behind the counter. It got my attention and a lot of other peoples too.
Cesiumsponge
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Well the article appears to state his intentions were to sell the brass to a recycler. Selling something for scrap metal prices which is otherwise has more worth and worth more before he went and fired all that stuff he had no intention of using...sounds like something a meth head would do. Do they start that young nowadays?
ConfuseUs
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1) Dumb kid should have made scrap brass the fun'n smart way instead of the stupid'n painful way. The State of New York needs to add "proper use of a tool to expedite bullet removal from shell casings", otherwise known as "rifle shooting" to its school curriculum
2) Dumb kid should have scrounged at the range for brass instead of slaving away at popping off rounds one at a time in a vise.
3) If this kid was dumb enough to purchase a box of ammo to make scrap brass to sell, the State of New York may want to sharply tighten standards in the public schools.
4) Oooh, imagine the irony of it all if he was trying to make money TO BUY A RIFLE.
2) Dumb kid should have scrounged at the range for brass instead of slaving away at popping off rounds one at a time in a vise.
3) If this kid was dumb enough to purchase a box of ammo to make scrap brass to sell, the State of New York may want to sharply tighten standards in the public schools.
4) Oooh, imagine the irony of it all if he was trying to make money TO BUY A RIFLE.
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Hey, Economist. Your post #27.
Use a bullet puller. I don't know how you're "cutting into the case," but heat must be generated no matter how you do it.
I paid $19.00 for mine. I know you can get them cheaper.
Even pulling cemented, crimped, cannelured steel-jacketed bullets out of steel cases takes only three moderate blows.
I prefer the ones with the collets rather than the v-slotted case holder. Mine is a "Preferred Bullet Puller" (that's the actual name) from Berry's Manufacturing in St. George UT.
But, like coffee, any bullet puller (coffee) is better than no bullet puller (coffee).
Use a bullet puller. I don't know how you're "cutting into the case," but heat must be generated no matter how you do it.
I paid $19.00 for mine. I know you can get them cheaper.
Even pulling cemented, crimped, cannelured steel-jacketed bullets out of steel cases takes only three moderate blows.
I prefer the ones with the collets rather than the v-slotted case holder. Mine is a "Preferred Bullet Puller" (that's the actual name) from Berry's Manufacturing in St. George UT.
But, like coffee, any bullet puller (coffee) is better than no bullet puller (coffee).
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I don't see how whacking the bullet could cause problems, well, unless he accidentally whacked the case while he was at it. But then again, we have folks who still insist that they load their guns with bullets, rather than cartridges, so what do I know.
I do feel sorry for the kid, but just like the kid who shot himself in the face with a frog from his potato gun years back, I don't feel sorry enough. Stupidity is it's own punishment.
I do feel sorry for the kid, but just like the kid who shot himself in the face with a frog from his potato gun years back, I don't feel sorry enough. Stupidity is it's own punishment.
Autolycus
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In situations like this I think to myself...
WWJD?
WWJD?
Michael Courtney
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Brilliant! This one had me laughing out loud. And I'm a teacher.
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