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Teen Shot Dead by Detective; Police Say Suspect Was Holding Fake Gun

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  1. Sven

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    http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA1KXGDHAD.html

    Teen Shot Dead by Detective; Police Say Suspect Was Holding Fake Gun

    NEW YORK (AP) - A 17-year-old boy was shot to death by a police officer Thursday as he held a fake gun to the head of the officer's undercover partner during a sting, authorities said.

    The detectives were investigating recent robberies of delivery men at an apartment building in the Hamilton Heights section of Manhattan. A few hours later, officers in Brooklyn killed a suspected car thief in the fourth fatal shooting by police this year.

    Anthony Newsome was shot in a hallway as he held an imitation gun to the head of a detective dressed as a delivery man, authorities said. The detective's plainclothes partner fired three shots at Newsome, striking him once in the chest. Police said the officers had thought the fake gun was real.

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    Can't blame em.
     
  2. Yohan

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    Another case of suicide by cop perhaps?
     
  3. Triad

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    There's a thread in L&P about NYC wanting to ban toy guns. Considering this story and this quote from the news article in the other thread
    you'd think they'd just ban stupidity.
     
  4. Orlando5

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    Kids today are too spoil or stupid for their own good. Can't blame the cop.
     
  5. rick458

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    ANYTIME you point a Fake gun at somebody with a Real gun
    you automatically die, I cannot understand the popularity of Replica Firearms, or realistic looking pellet /bb guns just seems like an invitation to a funeral to me
     
  6. seeker_two

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    Moral of the story: Don't point a gun (real or fake) at anyone, esp. a cop.

    Or strong message will follow...:what:
     
  7. Standing Wolf

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    Never show up for a gun fight without...

    Aw, never mind!
     
  8. Jim V

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    Sometimes, the learning curve gets real steep and the lessons learned are moving at 1,100 FPS.
     
  9. Rangerover

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    Just another method of cleaning the gene pool.

    Anyone who points ANYTHING besides his finger at a cop deserves what he gets.

    Are people getting dumber? I submit Exhibit A: "Jackass The Movie".

    The Prosecution rests.
     
  10. Kobun

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    Darwin Award for sure. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Redlg155

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    Things must have changed a lot since I was a child.

    If you pointed a cap gun at a Police Officer more often than not he would point his finger back at ya and say "bang! bang!"

    Oh well..things change.

    About the kid?..nope, I'm not saddened. If he would put a fake gun to an officers head he certainly would do it with the real thing.

    Good Shootin
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  12. Azrael256

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    The last time I pointed a cap gun at a cop he whipped out his cap gun and shot back... 'course the cop was my dad, and we were in my back yard.

    Normally I bristle when I hear about a cop shooting somebody with a fake gun, but this wasn't a 5 year-old with a cap gun. There was plenty of information there to indicate that the kid had intent to kill the partner. I feel sorry for the cop who has to see that image in his mind when he tries to sleep tonight.
     
  13. Blackhawk

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    Darwin award for sure, but his parent(s) should be cited for negligent parenthood....
     
  14. PATH

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    I'll never understand why people do such stupid things. The police officer has no way of knowing whether the gun was real.
    It was a clean shoot. Don't point anything that looks like a gun at a LEO. LEO's want to go home at night. They are justified in protecting themselves in these situations as there is no time to determine whether the gun is real or not.
     
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    I agree with all the above posts.


    One more thing, don't point a fake gun at anyone NOT an leo either. If I were to have a fake gun pulled on me, when out walking the dog or something of the sort, don't expect any diffrent reaction.

    I remember a time, when on duty and responding to a "man with a gun" call, I saw a male, 6'2", 225 lb, holding a small semi auto. Lucky for him, he dropped it when told to. It was unloaded and the "man" was a drunk 16 year old. I would have fired at him if needed, but.........Jeeeeez! What was he thinking?

    The best part? As I have my pistol pointed at him, telling him to drop his weapon, his mother comes out of the house and yells "Don't shoot my BABY!". Yeah, her baby.

    I'm getting to old for this.
     
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    A 17-year-old boy was shot to death

    Of course this "boy" now becomes one of the 15 billion (or whatever number they use) "children" that Sarah Brady and MMM and the rest say are killed by firearms every year:what:













    Edited for clarity.
     
  18. JohnBT

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    I'm sorry the guy's dead.

    Having said that, what's with the 17-year-old boy stuff? Boy?

    By my 16th birthday I was 6 feet tall. weighed 170#, had a job and a driver's license.

    John
     
  19. Seawolf

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    I'll take bets the family sues the police department on this one.
     
  20. 4v50 Gary

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    Don't bring a toy to a gunfight.
     
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    Media bias - a good cop shoot gets the lefty treatment

    More media bias - the headline screams "Teen Holding Toy Gun Shot Dead By Detective". Yeah, he held it to the head of a cop when the other cop took the shot... This crap makes me crazy...

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...-shooting_x.htm

    Teen shot dead by detective
    NEW YORK (AP) — A 17-year-old boy was shot to death by a police officer Thursday as he held a fake gun to the head of the officer's undercover partner during a sting, authorities said.

    The detectives were investigating recent robberies of delivery men at an apartment building in the Hamilton Heights section of Manhattan. A few hours later, officers in Brooklyn killed a suspected car thief in the fourth fatal shooting by police this year.

    Anthony Newsome was shot in a hallway as he held an imitation gun to the head of a detective dressed as a delivery man, authorities said. The detective's plainclothes partner fired three shots at Newsome, striking him once in the chest. Police said the officers had thought the fake gun was real.

    The detectives went to the building after a manager of a nearby Wimpie's hamburger restaurant reported a suspicious food order. Employees said staff had been robbed at least three times in recent days as they delivered hamburgers, french fries and sodas to the building.

    The shooting provoked anger from building residents and the window of a police department vehicle was smashed. Several people were arrested.

    Later Thursday, police said they shot and killed a man after he crashed a suspected stolen minivan and struggled with officers.

    Early Wednesday, two men were fatally shot by police in Brooklyn after they were seen firing guns in separate incidents.

    "It would appear in both cases that police officers were acting according to regulations and using the training that they've received to protect the public," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.

    The medical examiner's office said Thursday that Anthony Reid, 21, and Jamal Nixon, 19, died from gunshot wounds to the back. Police said both men traded fire with police.


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  22. PATH

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    Lessons learned here:

    1) Don't point real or anything that approxiamates real firearm
    at police officers.

    2) Don't shoot at police officers.

    Why all the hand wringing from the press?
     
  23. pinduck

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    Looks like potential for nomination for Darwin Award
     
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    Boohoo. Idiot holds a gun to a cop's head and gets shot? Oh the humanity! :rolleyes:
     
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    I agree with BlackHawk. My six year old knows better than to point ANY gun, toy or otherwise, at something he does not intend to shoot.
     
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